I have never shot with a release before and i just ordered a tru-fire patriot release from cabelas to try it out.I was just wondering if im gonna have to change my draw length now.

http://www.huntersfriend.com/drawlength.htm



Jeff

Yes, you'll most likely have to shorten up the bow about an inch.

Thanks for the help guys

NO NO NO![>:]
you do Not have to change your draw length!
the string to the corner of your mouth and the string touching your nose needs to be your most consistant anchor point.!
at full draw youre nuckle will be right at the back of your jaw bone and just under your ear lobe with a release provided your DL is correct to begin with.

You may have to change it a little because the string angle may change switching to the release. The way you anchor to your face will change for sure. It will move farther back on your face, like below your ear, or behind hour jaw bone. It will take some getting used to for sure. Go to a shop and play with different draw lengths and the such to see what is the most comfortable to you when you shoot. Maybe it isn't the best it could be right now? Most people shoot too long a draw length to begin with.

Paul

Let me try to explain this where it makes more sence to every one who has replied to this guy you need to change your draw length how WRONG you are ( No Offence intended but you are wrong!)
when holding the bow at full draw with a proper draw length the string at the nock will come to the corner of your mouth and touch the end of youre nose, it makes ABSOLUTLEY NO difference whether the string has a loop or not that is where the string needs to come to to achieve a good aim and a proper form.
now if you shorten the draw length you are going to have to rubber neck or bend your elbow in order to get the string back to its proper orientation where it touches your nose and the corner of your mouth.

your proper draw length does not need to change with or without a loop!

FLASH550
provided this link
that goes more in depth of what I am trying to tell you clowns
http://www.huntersfriend.com/drawlength.htm

Try it and see, I do agree about getting a consistant anchor to your nose and face. Just don't loop your thumb aroud the back of your neck. Feels like a good idea, but it's not.

Good luck,
Paul

Paul
if you are able to hook your thumb behind youre neck at full draw you are WAY too long to start with even before the loop was ever installed.

the illustrations in that link shows exactly where youre string needs to be at full draw if you follow that guide it will put you at the correct draw length.

He is in not talking about a loop, he is talking about going from fingers to a release aid. And by the way when you add a loop it changes your string angle and may very well effect how the bow is in relationship to touching your nose and mouth at full draw. So in order to get it back to the same point you would have to draw it back a bit farther. Because of the string angle the same point on the string will be farther away from your face. And if you were already anchoring with your knuckle in the back of your jaw and added a loop it would move your hand back farther. How much depends on the length of the loop. It would be possible to get your thumb on your neck from there. Some people don't anchor with the string on thier nose either, they do it with it beside thier nose, and use the face as an anchor point. Adding a loop would change this, unless you shortened the draw to make up for it.

And that picture doesn't look right to me. It looks like his draw is still a bit long. His hand is back too far ( he could easily put his thumb on his neck by the way), left shoulder looks a bit high, and he is bending his head down into the string a litle bit to touch his nose. Not to mention his hand is just sort of hanging out there, not touching his face anywhere. He is wasting what could be another anchor point. It's not that bad, but it could be better. Actually the more I look at that picure, the draw length on the bow isn't bad (I wish I could see more of him), as far as the power stoke goes. His release is just too long, and I would personally ditch the loop. This is a good example of why a loop isn't good for every person and set up. Beetween the loop and the release he is too stretched out. Which is the same thing as having too long of a draw length. It's not always what the bow is set at, it's a combination of all the equipment you use. Sometimes not using a loop makes it easier and more comfortable to get the string in the right place on your face, or puts your hand in a better position on your face. I don't think the benefits of a string loop outweigh the benefits of having the bow fit you better. Alot of it depends on axle to axle and your facial structure.

Paul