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Old 08-17-2004 | 01:26 PM
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I love you too, sho-me_bhntr!

However, I am not set in my ways and I do not blindly resist changes. I am quite flexible and am very much for changes that are conducive to necessity and reliability. My intentions are to help some shooters (that care) not go down the road that early shooters had to. It is waste of money and good hunting time.

Sometimes, you have to stir the pot to get the full flavor.
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Old 08-17-2004 | 01:27 PM
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Of course, I am assuming that improper setup and/or use has already been ruled out.
You know what assuming does Becasue that is exactly what you have done. I am just glad to hear you admit it.
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Old 08-17-2004 | 01:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: c903

I love you too, sho-me_bhntr!
lol, hey, lets get one thing perfectly clear...i'm not some c903 groupie!


Sometimes, you have to stir the pot to get the full flavor.
this was exactly my point. it always helps to see ALL perspectives imo...

good luck this fall to everyone!
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Old 08-17-2004 | 01:45 PM
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Silent:

Admit what? After replacing the limbs 4 times, I felt safe to assume that "gibblet's" guilt had been ruled out. At this juncture in "gibblet's" continuing saga with this defective bow, and that many have been pointing to all other possible causes, why would I want to start accusing him of being the cause of the problems?

However, sounds as though you are suspicious of what "gibblet" may be doing that may be the cause of the limbs breaking. What are your suspicions? If you have none, than I assume that you too have assumed that "gibblet's" fault has been ruled out.
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Old 08-17-2004 | 03:09 PM
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I don't know who's fault it is therefore I don't automatically conclude that anyone is to blame. I don't know what Bowtech was told and I don't know what gibblet did or didn't do. But I do know that whom ever was working on the bow should have said "hold up something else is going on here" after the bow broke the second set of limbs. I also didn't assume that this didn't happen in transit becasue I don't know. It may have. So given no facts other than what I have been given you have concluded through ASSUMPTION that Bowtech is at fault. When in reality you don't know what happened. Myself personally if it took a tech 4 sets of limbs to figure out that I had a problem other than my limbs, I would be looking for a new tech. Bowtech was not there doing the work. They have to go on what their dealers in the filed are telling them. But that guy deserves none of the blame in your eyes You're a trip. I don't see how you ever make it out to the forrest to go hunting. I mean with all of those trees in the way and all
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Old 08-17-2004 | 06:25 PM
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I understand there can be flaws but at least bowtech is taking care of them. I can't even get a draw cam from bear. Bowtech is Looking good.

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Old 08-17-2004 | 07:08 PM
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When in reality you don't know what happened.
Sure I do! Four sets of Bowtech limbs have failed.

If "gibblet" says he did not do anything to cause the failures, is he lying? If "gibblet" contributed to the problem, my question would be; what did he do or not do that would cause 4 sets of bow limbs to fail?

If he is responsible, what he did or did not do best be a major violation or a set of major violations; such as dry firing the bow, shooting the bow with shafts of less total grain than what was required, somehow breaching the maximum draw weight, etc. Otherwise, the integrity of the limbs from get go should be in question.

If the limb pockets have failed or were maldesigned, who should we hold responsible for that defect in order to protect Bowtech? Gibblet, the bow shop, the person down the street?

Is Bowtech a bad product because four sets of limbs have failed? Absolutely not! Do you keep playing Bowtech's game….or the bow shops game, while they CONTINUALLY satisfy you with their great service, their courtesy, and their warm smiles? No! When the second set of limbs fail, and you know you are not the cause, you start telling those of interest to get off the pot and screw their MANDATORY great service. [:@]
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Old 08-17-2004 | 08:27 PM
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Sounds like all is good , they came thru and corrected the problem.

wow! person #1 and#2 have just made my ignore list. opinions and insights like that aren't even worth reading.
C'mon we all know that doesn't work! Curiosity kills the cat , you know you'll peek at what they have to say.


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Easy there big fella!
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Old 08-17-2004 | 09:04 PM
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i am assuming that person #1 and #2 are c903 and bobco19-65. i would think twice before i put them on MY "ignore" list...they are both full of a lot of great info, experience, etc...even though you might have differing opinions in this thread, you might be missing out later by ignoring them...
Not really.

c903 seems to have no use for anything newer than WWII. gibblet got his bow replaced. Would you be happier if he just got another set of limbs, c903? I'll wager some other companies would not have replaced the bow.

c903:
Pardon! I did not realize that the thread was in regards to great service and response, and commendable composure while dealing with the same bow that has been blowing limbs time after time. Courtesy and composure is not worth a nickel when the same problem keeps occurring.
Not in your blind eyes. But to the people involved, it was helpful in getting things worked out. Read the original post again. Yelling and screaming, demanding and threatening, all make one look stupid, and feel foolish later. I'd be upset after four limb failures but, would look more to the shop for not diagnosing properly after the second set. BowTech has satisfactorily resolved gibblet's problem. Everyone involved is happy with the outcome. The only ones unhappy are uninvolved and wish only to "stir the pot".
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Old 08-18-2004 | 01:47 AM
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Wow! After blowing four sets of limbs, the bow was FINALLY replaced. Great service! A bit overdue, but great service. Well, a lengthy thread on that great service could be in order.

Better, I believe that the consumer should know what the cause of the limb failures was. If a manufacturing defect was/is the cause, the manufacturer is obligated to alert the consumers and the dealers of the defect and that problem has been fixed, so that others do not face the same problem and someone possibly seriously injured.

Then too, if Bowtech knowingly has a bunch of bad limbs out in the market and in the hands of people, Bowtech may not want it known.

One does not need to yell and scream, but demands and appropriate threats of actions other than physical would be totally appropriate. However, it is the individual's right to dance to the tune that the guilty manufacturers and dealers keep playing. The problem with that is the manufacturer and dealers then believe they can play the same tune for everyone all the time.
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