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there are honestly too many variables here to know for sure what the deal is. i don't know if its the bow, if it was damaged during original trip across country, the shop, me, .... i know we would be hearing a lot more about it if it was common though. from posters on this board, and a.t., the only other issue i've heard is nubo's and that was corrected as well with a new bow. of all the people i know here in n.c. with bowtechs, no problems. whatever the issue is/was, i'm getting a new bow in time for season and for me not to be worried about its performance during season, no matter whose fault it has been. i really don't think fault can be placed as we will never truly know what the issue is/was. and honestly, i don't think bowtech cares whose fault it is, i think they just want the people who spend their money with them to be happy. and i did, and i am, and because of this i would spend my $ with them again. jaime could have easily been accusational, but he wasn't, only helpful, and anyone who has gone through anything like this with any product knows how important that is, and knows that is how you build lifelong relationships between a company and an customer.

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No, I am saying that is all that you have evidence of and you are acting like we should swear off Bowtech's becasue two bows had problems. I have no doubt that Bowtech has had more problems than these two bows. The point is that so has every other manufacturer in the market place. It is part of the manufacturing process. Every company in every field produces a certain amount of equipment that makes it through quality control only to be later to be found defective. It doesn't matter what the product is or who the company is or what their reputation for quality is, they inevitable produce defective equipment. I am saying don't throw the baby out with the bath water. There of hundreds of guys shooting Bowtechs happily. Do we discount the hundreds because of the 1 or 2? I don't think that's acceptible. I spent a couple of years in a shop and ALL bow companies produce defective equipment. The true measure is what they do once that has been determined. It's not like there are Bowtech's all over the country with limbs exploding. This being Bowtech BBS and all I am sure that we would have heard about it;) I bet you if we take a poll and everyone here is honest and replies to the thread that we can come up with a bow from every manufaturer that is a factory defect. Are we going to swear off all bows? You happened to be the unlucky guy to get a bad Parker. That doesn't mean Parker bows are junk. Because, they obviously are not. It is understandable that you got a "bad taste in your mouth" in regards to them and it's understandable that you wouldn't trust them on a nine day hunt. But that is really a human nature issue and not a bow or a manufacturing issue. We as humans get "gun shy" when we get burnt by a person or product (myself included). If this were the story across the board I would say that you might have a point. However, these appear to be more like isolated incidents than "par for the course'. JMO

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Failures and defects seem to be easily accepted these days. I suppose that is the mind-set one must acquire and maintain in order to own and use some of the radical equipment that is on the market.

One set of broken limbs due to a factory defect would have put me on high alert regarding design and quality control. Four sets of broken limbs would be impossible because I would have thrown the bow in the junk pile after the second set of broken limbs.

Sounds like a "lemon" bow........ or junk ;)

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Well I tell you what captain terrific. Why don't you point out to me one manufatured product that has 100% quality control?

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sounds like a fluke in the assembly line/production. The replacement was probably off of the same line. maybe somebody entered something wrong into the computer?? Heater wasn't working properly or something. More than likely there are more defective bows out there that the company is trying to track down (or just waiting for them to break). Hopefully, for the companies sake, this is not a failure of design. Just ask Ford and Firestone what happens when poor engineering is mishandled!!

Steve

PS hope this bow holds up for ya'

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You know what silent, I think that you are assuming an aweful lot. You even assumed that I never had a problem with any bow that I owned. Where did that come from? Have I ever said that all bowtechs are bad or all parkers are bad? If so, I'd like to see it. Would I personally buy another Parker - nope. After breaking two sets of limbs on mine though, I'm not about to defend the company or praise their customer service because they fixed a problem that was under a warranty that I paid for.

I can see your point since your problem was an accident that they took care of on a problem caused on your behalf.


- c903, well said.

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Well maybe you can clarify it for me so that I understand. Why exactly was everyone crazy for saying they are glad the problem was fixed? The problem was obviously not with the limbs but with the bow so the wrong parts were being replaced. It wouldn't have made a difference if they had put a 100 set of limbs on it, it was going to keep on breaking them, becasue something else was ddefective. If you want to blame someone for that then blame the mechanic not the manufacturer. In your case that bow could have been broken during shipping or it could have been dropped by a family member that was scared to tell you or you could have even broken it yourself. They have no way of knowing which of the above it is. So when they correct the problem without hassle then they do deserve praise IMO because many companies will not or if they do it takes them for ever. I just think your attitude towards this thread is a bit naive considering these types of things happen with all bow manufacturers. The problem was made to seem work becasue someone kept slapping limbs on it instead of diagnosing the real problem. That like saying dodge sucks because I have blown 4 engines when in reality your mechanic didn't put any oil in the 3 replacement engines. No actaully dodge had one mechanical defect and your mechanic sucks. Same thing here.;)

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wow! some of you guys are pretty bitter. i've read on here about guys having to hold major bow companies hostage to get things fixed. like the guy who had to send an example of a website he was going to post about that companies limbs and lack of customer service, and having to threaten them with filling up the message boards with his story. only after that did a new bow arrive at his door the next day. i wanted to share a story about a company that stands behind their product, and that's a good thing. and to let people know that even if you are one of the rare people to get a lemon, if that's what it is, you will be taken care of with bowtech. if it was the limbs i think this story would be everywhere.

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Ironically enough.............that was me. lol

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It is an obvious phenomenon that some shooters that own one of the so-called "big three" bows, and other pieces of popular (cult) bow gear, tend to protect the reputation of the innate objects as a living and breathing family member and become overly indignant when a person disses the gear.

If someone says, "junk," that is his or her personal opinion. Don't want negative comments? Do not post problems or be ostentatious about your gear over another's gear.

I have owned many bows in my time; if I had a bow that broke four sets of limbs, I probably would consider the bow to be junk and say the bow was junk. However, after the second set of limbs busted, I would have insisted that the entire bow be replaced; a demand based on the risk of great physical harm and manufacturer/dealer liability.

Silent:

There is such a thing as a probability of failure regarding quality control with any product; but four sets of broken limbs surpasses the common and the acceptable. The particular bow is "junk" and should be replaced.