is there any noticable difference between the two shooting wise or timing wise? what about the grip on the riser is it more opt for a low wrist grip.

ARs Ram and half have more vibration in my experience. They both draw similar if timed/synched properly.

I really liked the AR34 w/ R.5 cams I tried..very nice bow for the moolah..needs some Sims gear..but most bows do..You probably will end up paying about the same $ after you grab some Limbsavers and whatnot for the AR (since the Hoyt comes with them)

I really liked the AR grip..nicer than the Hoyt... for my hands at least.

I would get whichever one feels best to you.

I do not seem to have a problem with vibration in my AR34 Ram & 1/2 that you report. MIne is dead in the hand, and the its smoothness is great. I prefer the Ram & 1/2 over the Ram cam.

Dan

I have not shot the ram.5 but I can say the AR grip is well balanced, It just feels good.
only complaint I have is its cold in the winter. (The grip)