mathew outback
 

for a 700 hundred dollar bow this thing is a joke i shot one a week ago and thought that what a wanted. but yesterday shot one at the pro shop for a while and i hate it the draw smooth until you get 3/4 back and feels like something rubbing it was not from the cam but after that i had my fill of a mathews.... so i shot some more hoyt vipertec nice but the speed turns me off i know it not about speed but its nice to have. the xtec really solid bow but i hunt tree stand and it is to long then the razortec really nice bow good speed no hand shock accurate so i order one alot cheaper than the outback and i like it better. if you are looking for a short bow i suggest the razortec and the bowtech mighty mite i have the mighty mite and the only thing i dont like about it is the draw cycle and the grip could be worked on just my opinion.. but very nice bow

RE: mathew outback
 

I felt very much the same way about the outback. I went with the xTec and I love it.:D I have been shooting 30 to 35 shots a night with it since I got it last thursday. I also hunt from a tree but I don't think the extra couple of inches matter IMO. Good luck with the razor.

RE: mathew outback
 

Yes,another opinion.I found that comparing the bows you mentioned,the Mighty Mite had the usual harsh Bowtech draw,and the Razortec's riser is entirely too skinny.I don't get into bashing different bows(just to fit in),because with all the quality bows out there,I look at it this way"There is a wrench to fit every nut"...Bob

RE: mathew outback
 

Sounds like you dislike Mathews more than you like the Razortec. Judgeing for the title and text. Why not "Hey, bought a Razortec and love it".? Hope you enjoy your new bow.

It gets kind of old.

Dayton

RE: mathew outback
 

Maybe thats what wrong....... My pro shop sells them for $629 :D
Anyway, I love mine :)

RE: mathew outback
 

I wonder what makes people bash other bows. I happen to like the outback. I even ordered one. I shot about 5 or 6 different brands before choosing. After I was done I didnt come on here and bash the ones I didnt like. If a bow isn't for you move on. Post something on here we can learn from instead of wasting others time. While we are all wondering if this bow or that bow is the greatest thing out there the antis are chipping away at our sport. We should be focusing on what really matters.

RE: mathew outback
 

if i was bashing mathews i would do the same thing they did to hoyt...;) if you guys think that if someone dont like a bow its bashing guess you shouldnt read a post title mathew outback[:'(] i just dont like the outback period. some people do some people dont iam not all for one bow company if i like the bow i buy it mathews make a good bow i just dont personally like them

RE: mathew outback
 

Oneidaeagle: The Outback is the finest bow Mathews has made since the MQ1, they finally hit the stone right on. The bow is dream to shoot, in my standards, blows the Legacy and my LX away. I have shot the Outback 3 different times and 2 different pro shops, everytime I shoot it, it gets better and better. It might have been a bad bow (the one you shot). Before I bought my LX I shot the Hoyt's, I am not sure what was the matter with them, but when drawing them back, I felt a huge bump about 3/4 draw, not something that I liked, everything else was just fine.

RE: mathew outback
 

Well by all means.........thank you for sharing your unbiased opinions with us !! ;)

Now go buy yourself a Hooked on Phonics tape and sign up for some writing lessons with all that money you saved !! [:o][:-]:D

RE: mathew outback
 

Just because someone doesn't like a bow doesn't mean they are bashing. The outback may be the finest bow made in some of your opinions but that doesn't make it the best for everyone. Just becasue the man stated an opinion that is contrary to your favorite bow doesn't mean he is biased and it's not a personal attack against you. Some people just have different taste in bows. I could see some rebutal if he made some outragous claims about speed, hand shock, or vibration etc. However, he merely stated that he didn't like the bow. I challenge anyone here to quantify what a "joke" is in someone elses opinion.............................

The Hooked on Phonics thing, well that's another matter entirely;):D

RE: mathew outback
 

Hi,
I'm the new frenchy,
In Europe Hoyt is the better sale for the up grade bows.
Mathews have some difficult to increase the market, because they don't have draw lengh tunning, and the shop hate to buy them.
Bow Tech is unknow except for the man (like as me) who go to the Ata show.
In my shop (the biggest Bowhunter proshop in France http://www.erhartsl.com) we like Mathews because the bows 're quiet and accuracy. Mathews 're the first choice on our shooting aera !
It's important to know that in France we're on the beginning of the Bowhunting history, and the shooters don''t choice with the heart because the big part of them begin to bowshooting, and don' know the différents bows company !
I think personnaly that it's not very important to like a bow against an other (exept for the sailer as me), just the exiting when we hurt the Buck comming give to the bowhunter the fun of our activity:D
I 'm happy to have found this forum, i thing it help me to learn your language and your knowledge about bowhunting !
Thank,
Fred from France

RE: mathew outback
 

Well, dang it, I was going to buy an Outback, but since you don't like them I won't.

What accesories don't you like?

Dayton

RE: mathew outback
 

I just bought a outback and I love it! I don't know if I understood correctly because your sentences were scattered and made little sense, but you said that you like the outback and you were going to get it and then all of the sudden you noticed something in the draw? That doesn't make sense, maybe something was wrong with the bow. Mine draws very smoothly and couldn't ask for a better bow.

RE: mathew outback
 

Hmm..I find the draw cycle not quite as nice on the OB as the other Mathews HP cam bows, but I don't think it's "harsh" by any means, and the total lack of anything at the shot is quite nice.

May not be the bow for you, but AFAIC it's a damn nice shooting bow.:)

RE: mathew outback
 

I'm guessing things must be a bit slow in Oneidaeagle land. Wasn't it just last week you posted something about shooting several bows, and then said that the Hoyt X-tec was your choice, then after several people posted, you jokingly said that you really meant the Mathews Outback, which you described as pretty close to perfect.[:-]

Now you are describing the "perfect bow" as a 700 dollar mistake?:(

I don't shoot Mathews any more (had two), but everything I have heard about the Outback sounds like it is a very nice bow. Hardly sounds like a $700 mistake. Almost no company is producing really bad bows these days. People just seem to prefer certain features, draw, shot feel, etc.;)

RE: mathew outback
 

I think it was the title of his post and basically that he came across as hating the Outback more than he liked the other bows. It comes across more as bashing than just giving personal preferences.

RE: mathew outback
 

Oniedaeagle, you are really into archery. A week ago you posted that you own a 2004 Bowtech Mighty Mite. On 5-24 you bought an X-Tec. On 5-27 you agreed with "Trestand" that the Hoyt grips and risers are too skinny. Today you bought a RazorTec. You are one lucky guy to have the pocket cash for that many 2004 bows. I can't swing a new one right now, are you getting rid of any of them? And you really liked the Outback a few days ago.

Life is funny.

Dayton

RE: mathew outback
 

First let me say that I'm new to the BB and bowhunting. So, take everything I say with a grain (or ten) of salt...

I recently shot an Outback, an Xtec, an 03 Extreme VFT, and an 04 Justice. The guy at the proshop (LA Archery in Pineville, LA) set them all up the same (naked with a Bodoodle rest) and didn't say a thing about the bows until I was done shooting all of them. I really wanted to hate the Mathews since they seem to pay everyone to shoot their bows. Guess what? I liked the Outback the best. I thought it was the smoothest drawing, most hand-shock free, most comfortable, quietest bow of the bunch. I'd be proud to own any of them and I'm pretty sure I could shoot accurately with any of them. Still, I liked the Mathews the best. And I don't own a Mathews.

It's funny to a newbie how polarizing the whole bow debate is. Mathews folks seem to think every other bow sucks, Hoyt folks may be more rabid than Mathews folks, and everybody else says Mathews and Hoyt are crap. I've found that all the "high-end" bows have many redeeming qualities and I think just about anyone could be successful (hunting and 3D) with any of them if they were properly set up.

I've been shooting my AR a ton since I bought it last fall. Haven't hunted with it yet (deer, anyway, I've killed a hog at 22 yrds) but I can't wait until 9/11 for GA archery season to start. I may not rifle hunt at all this year...

RE: mathew outback
 

i think you need to try all the bow you can befor buying and make your choice youself with your felling !
@+

RE: mathew outback
 

Hey Fred, One quick question- what kind of game is there to hunt in France?

RE: mathew outback
 

Sorry for my late answer, we have 7 hours more time to NW City.
We hunt the "sanglier". It 's same as your russian wild boar. The biggest 're up to 200 pounds, and you need shoot compound up to 65 lbs and 650 grains arrow weight
http://images.google.fr/images?q=san...cherche+Google
We've to the "chevreuil", it's a small deer with six point maximum and 60 pound for the biggest : http://images.google.fr/images?hl=fr...tnG=Rechercher
Another big game is the "cerf", deer in english, it's a different family of your wapiti :http://images.google.fr/images?hl=fr...tnG=Rechercher
The bowhunting is at the beginning in my country, we're legal betwenn 1995, and i think we're 5000 bowhunter in France.
The shooters coice in first the traditionnal bow (because most of them hunt the small game and chevreuil) !
The big game is expensive to hunt and the gun hunter 're not all friendly with archery !
In my hunting aéra i can hunt 5 or 6 big game per year, and i hunt more to 100 day per year.
I'm happy to have found your forum for have an another think of mind about bowhunter !
@+
Fred

RE: mathew outback
 

Sorry if you guys think i was bashing mathews i just didnt like the feel of it.. And yes i did like it when i frist shot it but when the pro shop got one in that was my spec the more i shot it the more i didnt like it.. (Could of been just that bow.. ) I dont know why this is a big shock to everyone i have heard the same thing from different people.Yes i do have a 2004 bowtech mighty mite i like the bow but it has a harsh draw cycle(the speed has to come from somewhere). The xtec is a very nice bow but i like ata 33 and under... Only thing i was trying to say is the outback is a nice bow for some people but to me i dont like it...

RE: mathew outback
 

As far as the Hooked on Phonics thing i learn from the best CDM SC!!!;)

RE: mathew outback
 

That would be CBM ............and I'm glad to help !!;)

Your last post was much more thought out , readable, and understandable ! I would have placed a lot more value on what you said originally if it had been worded more like that...... instead of Outback [:'(]...........Mathews sucks.......blah blah blah !!

RE: mathew outback
 

I never said mathews sucked I just said there not for me!!

RE: mathew outback
 

Oniedaeagle, I was looking through the archives and I found at least ten ppl who said this was a very smooth drawing bow if not the smoothest they have ever tested. Something could have been wrong with the bow.

RE: mathew outback
 

They are a very smooth bow but the two that i shot at 3/4 draw it felt like some thing rubbing.

RE: mathew outback
 

Thanks Fred in France, I learned something new today!

Now back to the debate at hand- the Mathews Outback is or is not the $700 dollar mistake?


I myself never even drew one when I was bow shopping, but am sure it's a very worthy bow for the competition to have to compete with.

RE: mathew outback
 

I'm sticking with my Outback. By the way, Bill in Folkston, Ga will sell you an Outback for $609.00, or Van Morgan in Panama City, Fl will get you one for only $629.00. Both are honost guys that will set you up with either a Mathews or Hoyt wich ever one fits "you" the best. Both guys are completely un-biased. I'm not sure I would pay $700.00 for a bare bones bow from any manufacture unless they come up with one that will put out 350 fps, with a 8 1/2 BH, 34" ATA, less recoil then a BB gun and as quiet as Osama Binlauden in a room full of Navy Seals.

RE: mathew outback
 

i looked at the outback the other day at the pro shop. i thought it was smooth and all, buti really didnt like the short ATA. thats why i picked an LX. i thought the Hoyt Xtec was pretty nice too. I just liked the LX a bit better. This is my second bow, previous being a 4 year old PSE Nova that i used last year, so im not real biased when it comes to buying a bow i guess. anything is better than that thing. oneida did sound pretty biased against mathews. it seems like with mathews, you either love 'em or you hate 'em. everybody is either singing their praises or bashing them because they're producing great bows, i still can't figure out what their is to bash about them. Them, Hoyt, and Bowtech have equally nice bows IMHO.

slayer

RE: mathew outback
 

This entire thread is a joke! Look at the date this thread was started , read everything this young man has posted , then read the Mighty Mite thread and look at the date it was started.[&:]

Your right , not everyone is going to like something about a popular bow. However theres a big difference in posting your unbiased opinion of a product and bashing them.
I think Barney Phyffe could have cracked this case!;)