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if he is going to compare how quiet his bow is to another bow it shouldnt be using Mathews as a model.

the TSS is without a doubt the quietest bow in the world !

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What is a TSS? Just curious, where did you get this info?

I shot a Kodiac for the first time the other day, and couldn't believe how quiet it was. Quietest I've heard to date. There was a buzz in the grip, but you could hardly hear the bow.

I gave Whisper Creek a call to clear up some questions. Their website is being re-done to correct some errors on it. They made a lot of changes, they say, so there are some inconsistancies. The hybrid cam will be available in about 60 days. The braided limbs are not going to be out until the 2005 models. Supposedly, it's a patented process that will make for a much stronger limb. The "Bow-Mic" will also not be available until the 2005 models. The bow "Actuator" is increasing IBO speeds by about 20 fps. This is about an $80-$100 option at this time. The "CF" Custom Fit bows will not be available until 2005. Very shortly, they will have a 31" model with more parallel limbs.

They say the baffler material is very strong and wear resistance. According to this person, they have put many 10's of thousands of shots through their cams made of this, and they have remained perfectly shaped and intact, with no wear. It's so smooth that it will not wear on a string. In their words, "this material is that good". They even said it could be made in custom colors if the shop ordered enough bows.

I told them the limb pocket looked flimsy with the possiblity of limb movement. The response was that it was the exact opposite. Hard to say how much of this is "sales talk" and how much is real potential. Interesting to say the least. I will say, that this person was as courteous and polite as anyone I've ever talked to, from a bow company.

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;)

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it....

great movie..... :)

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TSS is the HCA Total Shooting System
and has undergone side by side comparisons with the other bow manufacturers by an independant survey

the survey can be found at Bowsite.net

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Bowsite is down for me this morning BPS. Was the noise testing done with a decibel meter? Or just based on shooter perception?

I don't doubt the TSS is extremely quiet, but the reason I ask is that the bow I sent to BowTech this year to have tested I thought was pretty darn loud, yet they told me it "scored" very well when they put it on the decibel meter. :shrug:

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I guess my question is similar to Jeff's. How was the test done, and did it include all models of all manufacturers? You can't get this: "the TSS is without a doubt the quietest bow in the world!", unless the test included everything and was done with a decibel meter. If not, there would be all kinds of doubts from a large number of people. Another factor would be, when was the test done? New models are hitting the market frequently enough over about a 6 months span, that any testing that wasn't done very recently, would be out of date already.

Another critical factor in testing, is whether the test is bare bow, with silencers provided by the manufacturer, or with add-on silencers from 3rd party manufacturers. Some manufacturers ship their bows with all kinds of silencing stuff added, others send them completely "bare bow". I've found bows that are relatively loud, can sometimes be made almost silent with a little manipulation by the archer. This is the biggest reason, I seldom pay much attention to loudness ratings. When I get done setting up my bows, most make no more noise than a mouse fart.

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What'cha doing, specifically?

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I guess he's comparing them to mouse farts... [8D] Amazing how you could get them little guys to fart on cue like that for testing....;)

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Well not all mice are capable of such feats. Only Members of the MFG (Mouse Farting Guild) can pull off the task with such precision and regularity!

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That's ironic... I would have thought it would have helped them if they were irregular... :)