25 Years - Time to Quit
 

Compounds, that is. Bad shoulder + physical weight + draw cycle = PAIN

I've got enough pain already. Don't need my toys causing me more. I can shoot my recurves and longbows all day, but 30 shots with my ProTec - even as easy and smooth drawing as Accuwheels are - has me reaching for the naprosyn and ice bag.

So, there's fixin' to be a clearance sale! ;)

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I've been thinking of doing the same thing for the same reason. Been poppin the Tylenol 8hr's on shooting days. It's my right shoulder thats giving me problems (right handed) and it doesn't bother me when I shoot my Bear Grizzly. But I need a longer recurve , I get too much finger pinch with that 58" Bear.

Arthur

You might have to spread the word around to the Mavericks or Spurs that your having a garage sale. You might find someone close to your draw length out there!;)

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Mine's the left shoulder, my bow arm shoulder. But the right one has it's problems too. Tore the rotator cuff in it, throwing a baseball, but managed to get by with therapy and avoided surgery.

You don't think there's any bow shooters on the Rockets?;)

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Ooops! Completely forgot that the country we know as Texas has 3 NBA teams.[&:]

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Between old football injuries, and being a cop for most of my adult life, I've had four surgerys on my right shoulder, one on my back, and the current Saw Bones wants to operate on my left should to relieve some spurs. Tore the rotor cuff in the right one two years ago.

My options were either find a comfortable bow or go to the crossbow. I started with the Mathews Legacy and now currently shoot the Mathews Outback. Big wheels, high let-off, smooth bows and moderate weight, (55#) allow me to still participate in Archery and Bowhunting. I do however, take a daily dose of pain medication that helps with the back injury and I assume helps with the shoulders too. Probably have to take it the rest of my life. This works for me. Maybe you or someone else reading your post can use this information.:)

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Before you quit compounds, go try a BowTech Pro 40 Freedom cam or a Liberty. I can't imagine a bow that draws smoother than these two and the accuracy of my neighbor's Pro 40 is really something else!!!

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The Pro40 with the Freedom Cam has draw lengths up to 32"...... come on Arthur, you know you just can't get away from compounds, you need at least one more. I mean, what kind of hunter would you be if you didn't have a compound? :D:D:D

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I think your on to something Arthur. I have only been bowhunting for about 7 years (all compounds) but also have a history of shoulder problems. all this to say that I recently built a deflex longbow and absolutley love it. I said I wasn't going to quit shooting modern, but as I become more proficient I'm finding simple is more fun, rewarding and alot less painful.

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Arthur P,
Try pulling a Mathews Icon before you quit. The Oneida bows are quite friendly too. My Dale Dye recurve was made to draw 31 1/2 inches and it is alot easier on the joints than anything else I own. Just because the old English archers had deformed bone structure from shooting heavy poundage bows doesn't mean that we have to follow their example ourselves. A good bowhunter tries to see how close he can get to his prey before he kills it. Good luckhunting!

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Where's your draw weight at? I mean you could come down to 50lbs and still be good with that draw length.

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Thanks for the suggestions fellers, but there is absolutely NOTHING on the market that draws smoother and easier than Hoyt's Accuwheels. Quite a few come close to equalling them, but nothing surpasses them. And yes, I did back off the draw weight to 50 pounds. No difference. It doesn't change the fact I'm holding nearly 6 pounds of metal and pastic out there at arm's length, vs 14 ounces with my longbow and 30 ounces with my recurve.

Hide and watch;)

Uh.... Traditional, maybe?[8D]:D:D

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Nothing wrong with shoot'n traditional , You just cant leave this board for the traditional thread :D , As long as your flinging arrows , do how you want to , forget what everyone else wants you to do . Arthur have you tryed glucosamine ? it does wonders for joint pain .

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I would take this opportunity to pick up a new recurve or long bow...wouldn't you?

I hear Mathews came out with a traditional bow this year.....;)

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Actually, Frank, Mathews bought Sky Archery is is manufacturing them under the Mathews label now. They're still Sky bows though, and Sky = good.

I won't be buying a new bow, though I am forming some plans to make myself a copy of a Black Widow SA style recurve.

ijimmy, glucosamine is good stuff. Been taking it for 5 years now.

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Why does this post say you are quitting? You aren't quitting compounds, you are starting to shoot traditional. One day I'll do this too, when I have more time to practice. I bet you will never look back...

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Good Luck Arthur......

Sounds like you will feel right at home shooting that stick:D:D

Whack em dead;)

P.S. - I just made up some plans on how to fit a trophy taker drop away on a recurve if you want to...........:)

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arthurp,

I am sorry to hear about your shoulder troubles. Getting rid of the compound shouldn't be an issue for you though. Were you even able to hunt last year with your back problems?

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I did get out a few times, SA. Small game, anyway. My back had me down pretty much all of deer season.

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Arthur,

I thought I remebered you posting that. Is the back doing any better?

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That's a bummer Arthur. Can't say as I blame you though. Gotta be tough shooting through a constant pain.

Hope you'll still hang out here though. I , personally, really value your comments on here and you've taught me a lot.

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I'm sorry to hear my fellow protec accuwheel lx pro finger shooting freind. is hanging up the Hoyt:(. Pain takes the fun out of everything and it sucks when its something you love. At least you can still shoot your tradition equipment. Your not leaving this forum are you? that would suck for all of us. Say explain something to me what poundage is you traditional equipment and does'nt it take more to hold a recurve back than a compound becuase of the absence of letoff? or is ot just holding up the weight of the bow thats killin ya.[:@] you don't think a year off from your compound would make a differance?
Oh well its late I wish you the best and hope you feel better so you can still enjoy what you so passionately love.
Timbow.

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I don't have any problems with pain, but if you want to get rid of the compound, a couple of traditional guys I know shoot Martin and Black Widow traditional bows and they say they are great. everything I have read on traditional bows says these are great bows. I have shot it, but I have no idea how to tell whether they are good or bad myself. Sorry to hear about all your pain and I hope it subsides enough so you can still stay in the woods. Good luck on finding a bow.

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Sorry to hear of your medical problems Arthur! But glad you can still shoot traditional.

Whatever you do, please don't leave this board. We need your knowledge and experience to help us stay the course.

Thanks

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No problem 'finding' a bow, riverknight. I've got 'em already. I've even been known to make my own longbows.;)

Tim, I think it's a combination of things. Mainly the actual weight of the compound vs the actual weight of my recurves and longbows and how much longer I have to hold the compound up vs my stickbows. Maybe even the difference the draw cycle and stored energy.

My compound stores a good 40% more energy than the recurves and longbows do. That means I'm putting 40% more energy into drawing the compound, and probably putting 40% more strain on the shoulder for the same draw weight.

A trad bow hits peak weight for you at your draw length. My style of shooting is I aim while I'm drawing, when I hit my anchor everything should be lined up (SHOULD be lined up... I miss sometimes[&o]), so there's often not even a hint of hesitation before the shot is gone. So, I'm at peak weight for a mere fraction of a second. With the compound, it takes me a couple of seconds to pull through the peak and control the draw through the letoff. And then the letoff disrupts my barebow aiming method. It takes me a couple more seconds to reacquire my sight picture before I can release the arrow.

But the bottom line is simply the way my shoulder feels after shooting.

Oldguy, I hadn't figured on leaving the board. [&:]