Here is a pic of the Axis 1 with a Gold Tip Gladiator 1 with no point and 1 with a Muzzy 3 blade.

As you can see from the middle arrow the insert is not visible it is up inside the shaft.

The good thing about these arrows they come with a small grinding stone that you can square the ends up on those shafts for perfect broad head alignment

WoW! Ok Ausie, at first look I'm thinking the end of the shaft can't take the shock abuse and will start to splinter after one solid or repeated target shots. You know, no "bumper" like conventional inserts.

Anyone really putting these arrows to the test? I'm currious.

Larger diameter shafts allow more room to adjust necessary or preferred angle of fletching. Depending on differing factors from individual shooter to individual shooter, one shooter may obtain good flight and accuracy with straight fletch, another may require extreme helical. Factor in that if a shooter needs a 5" fletch to obtain good flight, even more room (shaft diameter) will be necessary.

Considering that fletching size and angle is crucial to good flight, and ample shaft diameter is necessary for certain rest designs, I personally will opt for a larger shaft area (diameter) to adjust fletching and obtain good rest clearance.

Also, the advertised and hyped penetration tests are usually based on the amount of penetration into a dry medium. An animal is made of lubricated tissue. When the broadhead blows open a hole ahead of the shaft, why would a small diameter shaft slide through any better than a larger diameter shaft?

Excerpt:

"I also believe we’ve been ‘hyped to death’ by some manufacturers about how to improve penetration. Their advertising has made it sound like there was a problem to be solved. But, for the most part, there isn’t."

"If you do hear a bowhunter talk of a penetration problem, it’s probably because the arrow didn’t go where it was supposed to. He either blew the shot, or took a risky one. And that’s what really bothers me about this whole penetration thing. Put the arrow where it counts and penetration isn’t going to be a factor. Put the arrow into a shoulder, and you’ve probably got trouble regardless of your setup."

I think bowhunt america shot them into a rock, twice. The only thing that happened was the nock popped off. They just put it back in.

I suspect the back end of the broadhead or field tip acts every bit as much like the ring of a traditional insert upon impact. When you think about it, it's still the shaft against metal, right?

Has anyone had any problems with any broadheads not fitting inside the shaft? I'm trying to made my own head and I would like it to work with the AXIS arrow but don't have any in my possesion right now. What is the ID of the shafts? Thanks in advance.

stinky, make your broadheads to AMO spec and they'll work in anything. Here's a link:

http://www.texasarchery.org/Document...OStandards.pdf

You'll need the Adobe Acrobat reader to open the file.

Carbon Express makes some with larger diameter if that is what you want.
I prefer inserts to outserts myself. I don't like the profile of the arrow to have a 'bump' on the end that might interfere with the rest. Enough goes wrong while I'm hunting. I don't want to have something else to keep me from having confidence in my equipment. I don't know for sure if it would be a problem, but I'm not about to spend the $ to find out.

Got my first deer with a Carbon Express CX Hunter last Oct. They work just peachy, and I too have a 30.5 inch draw.
I shoot fingers with a flipper.
Carbon Express Arrows

Thanks Arthur!!!!

I don't think you could go wrong with Easton ACCs. I've been hunting with the same arrows for about 5 years. I have passed through several deer with them and they are still on great shape. They are on the expensive side, but I haven't had to buy a dozen arrows in years.