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The only drawback to a 3-track system is without good form and/or bow fit, some people will get a little cable contact. However, with a properly fit bow and good form, this is usually not an issue. Another thing is, if you do get the contact , it is much less detrimental than actual string contact (it will actually prevent you from getting string contact).

Shooting a split system bow was the best thing I did to improve my shooting form and develop a proper grip. When I first started, it was a little different, but afterward it has been totally positive.

The 3-track system is the most balances system out there, and I reiterate, the nock travel in the horizontal plane is not a factor as it is with all other systems (and you can't do very much about it). I still feel this nock travel in the horizontal plane is more detrimental to the shot than the hyped straight and level in the vertical plane.

3-tracks are the way to go!

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

Sag-- If I am not mistaken, Black Frog is shooting his exceptional scores this year with an Omega HYBRID system.

Eventually you and Rob will come around too.:D;)

Good shooting, Pinwheel 12

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Pinwheel,

Old friend, I am well aware of Black Frog's scores and know the Omega is accurate.
But the Omega system still does not address cam lean, plus uneven wear and stress on components and limbs like a 3 track.
You, yourself, use to extoll these same virtues when talking of the Merlin shoot thru system. Remember ? ;)
I believe, Black Frog would prefer a Merlin X cam too if it were available.
I don't see why Merlin cannot build the X cam for guys who want one.
Afterall, they practically promised to build one almost 2 years ago and backed out.
Their bows are perfect for an X cam system, imo.
With their great craftsmanship and shootability, the X cam can only make them better.
It's a big plus with no minuses!
Yes, I will come around when Merlin decides to get smart and build my 3 track. :D
If you're happy with your Omega cams old friend, more power to you.
But, I believe, even you would shoot the Merlin X cam if they made one.
You would come around! [8D] :D


Sag.

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Now I’m even getting pulled into this! [8D]

It’s true that I’ve shot my best scores in my life the past 4 months or so using my little Quest35 equipped with Omega cams. Several 60X games, a State title, a NFAA Sectional title, and tied for 4th highest Male FS score at the NFAA Nationals. Awesome little bow.

Before I took the leap to Merlins several years (3? 4?) ago, I had been extremely happy owning three different Dartons with the CPS cams, so hybrids are nothing new to me.

The last couple of years I had been shooting a Supernova with Merlin’s round wheel “T-Wheels” and a shoot-through harness. Never had the scores as high as I did until I switched to my Quest35 for target shooting. Now believe me, more than anyone I’ve been questioning myself if my improvement in scores was due to the difference in cam systems? Arrow rest? Different grip? Different back wall solidness? Maybe a mixture of some factors? Honestly, I don’t know- but I’m in the process of trying to determine why that is…. Keep in mind that while I was doing quite well with the Omega system, another Merlin shooter, Grant Schleusner, was winning BHFS at Vegas, a State title, a NFAA Sectional title, and 2nd place at the NFAA Nationals with Merlin’s Rapid2 twin cam with a shoot through harness.

I’m going to spend some devoted time over the next few months comparing lots of things- grips, cams, rests, bows, shoot throughs, cable guards, and all sorts of combinations. I do wish Merlin made a three track- if they did, I would own one. If they did, Merlin would have every cam option covered for the archery consumer. I’ve mentioned on the boards a few times that I wouldn’t have a three track system for my style of hunting. I do a lot of cold weather outings and don’t want to worry about having a cable closer to my bulky coat than the string already is. And for hunting I wouldn’t own a bow with less than 7-7.5” of brace height either for the same concerns. But a three track for target shooting may be another story……

That said, I’m expecting a new Merlin w/ Omegas late this week or early next week (right, PW12? ;)) This one will be a little more appropriate for target shooting and will allow me to start figuring out what works the best for me and my style of shooting. Should be a fun summer!

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

Sag-

As stated many times, there are several reasons why Merlin decided not to do the 3 track, and the ongoing evolution of cam design and the direction it is progressing was a big part of that decision.(sorry![:o];) ) Maybe if the popularity of them grows to where we will sell enough to warrant bringing them out, maybe we will. But I'm not so sure I see this happening... in fact I see the industry moving in another direction to be honest so I dunno, we may do one at some point for you guys, we'll see. As far as myself touting them, sure, they are still a great system--there is just something better (IMHO) available now.;)

Black Frog--

YES, you will receive your bow later this week. It is SWEET! (Max 3000 Omega, blue fade with gold hardware---this blue is really nice, wanted this one for myself!;)) I think it's going out today if I remember correctly---been busy so it's hard to remember who's and what's, but I remember this is a Purrrty one! LOL.

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

I talked with Chris Jones in person when they first debuted the Omega cam system at the ATA last year. At that time we discussed the various systems that they had and he was of the opinion that a dual cam was still better.

Hoyt pushed the industry toward the hybrid cam, just like Mathews pushed it toward the single cam. The other manufactures have to follow suite with the big marketing machines. Gotta give the people what they have been convinced they want.:D

I may have to get some Nitrous-X cams for my Supernova -- that would be great!! Right down the middle.

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Chris and Ben both feel the Omega is the next step forward also, especially now that it has been upgraded since those first generation ones from the beginning of last year.(all of the original first ones were recalled at Merlins' expense and replaced) I was in the booth and on the shooting lane THIS year at the ATA along with Chris, Ben, Larry Wise, My wife, and other staff members. (got to meet you also Rob) We had a great time discussing things in-depth technically throughout the weekend and still do very frequently now that I am running Merlin in the USA.

The twins are a nice system---I touted them heavily for many years, even through the solocam days. in fact I was one of only a few to carry the torch when everyone was loving solos. Great system.

But as I stated, I NOW personally believe, along with many other manufacturers and techs, that this "new" system simplifies things and combines the best attributes of both systems all into one, without their fallicies.

Len has been touting these systems since Darton came out with them, and he was right IMHO. (even though they have been through many generations since their beginnings ;)) I am big enough to say I was wrong about hybrids initially when I placed them into the same category as solos--- and Len yes-- you definately were correct. ;) Good shooting, Pinwheel 12

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<----------- is biting his tongue[:-]

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<-------so is he!:D

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Black Frog,

If it wasn't you it would be someone else so it might as well be you. LOL

Rob,

Yeah, got to give the sheep what they want. ;)

Pinwheel,

I know how it goes. ;)


Sag.