RE: The difference between Cam & 1/2 and 1 cam
 

Hmmm, sounds like someones a little partial...;)

I don't have any problems with my Hoyt Cam 1/2 wall, as you can definitly tell there is a wall there, but I am still undecided as to whether I like it better or worse than the feel of the solo's or not.

I am beginning to learn to shoot back tension.. fun fun!! One thing I seem to like about a slight mushy wall with this bow is that I can hit the draw stop at anchor and use the slight mush to pull through the shot. Of course right now with me just learning BT, its quite an adventure for me.:D Lets just say its hit and miss.

RE: The difference between Cam & 1/2 and 1 cam
 

I've shot all their models with the omega cam with the exception of the Super Nova. When the stop on the lower cam module hits the string, I can easily pull another 1/2" or a bit more. If you have a draw stop that hits the limb, there is no pulling through it without moving the limb, which is very difficult to do. When using back tension and pulling, this becomes very obvious to me. Several of the guys shooting Merlins at the local shop have said the exact same thing to me. Don't get me wrong. I don't see this as a negative. I don't like the super hard walls I've felt on some single cams. In fact, I sold my Diamond because the wall was simply too hard for my liking. The other night when the six of us were shooting the Max Extreme, the 3 that preferred the Machete, specifically liked the harder wall.

I suggest you take do this test (I have) Get somone to pull the max extreme until the string hits the draw stop. Then have them pull into the stop with about 10-15 over the holding weight. Notice the movement on the lower cam. It's quite easy to make it move more an inch or so. I'm surprised you haven't noticed this. It caught my attention on the very first Merlin I ever shot (I've only shot the Omega cams). For me, this makes a back tension release easier and it just feels better to me.

RE: The difference between Cam & 1/2 and 1 cam
 

Straightarrow , I agree with you on the wall . The bow with the most "solid " back wall I've ever shot was a pse single cam . Of the hybred's out there that I have shot , the darton's seem to have a slightly more "solid" wall than some of the others . I do not shoot backtension , and the wall is not a critical factor for me .

RE: The difference between Cam & 1/2 and 1 cam
 

I don't see it guys---I just went back and did exactly as you said SA, and I can get virtually identical "extra" movement from both hybrids and solos when hitting the stops on each and then putting more force into each. Yes, they all get between 3/8"-1/2" extra movement, they are hitting the cables to stop, and the ones with the longest "tab" are the ones that are the most solid---hybrid or solo--same principle..

Nothing "partial", just stating what I personally feel. No biggie.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one guys, that's all..;) Good shooting, Pinwheel 12

RE: The difference between Cam & 1/2 and 1 cam
 

It's so unfortunate we have NO Merlin Dealers here in Southern Ontario. The Max-Extreme is definitely a bow I would want to shoot one day soon.
I've even written to the guys in England, had a few correspondence with Chris & Claire and was happy to learn that they're working on setting something up in Canada.
In the meanwhile, I'm shooting the new Champion Scoprion (ETS)--C/P/S cam plus. This bow has a rock solid wall, when it stop, it STOPS!!!
The only qualm I have is there's almost no valley, there's no room to wince as the arrow takes off almost on its own!!!
I can honestly add, that the 80% let off as advertised, is not really what it is, you're looking at about 5% less--but that's fine (for me).
I think as Pinwheel has mentioned the cam.5/hybrid bows will again revolutionize the industry in the right direction. IMO.