brace ht--myth or fact!
03-14-2004 | 09:23 AM
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From: monroe ohio USA
RE: brace ht--myth or fact!
guys i went to hunters friend.com and looked at there bow comparison chart and noticed all there shorter version bows scored less with the short brace ht. were all of these bows shot individually for the testing or do you think its just a common pt of view.would a string loop help to raise there score due to not as much pinch on the arrow you think.that was another question.due you really think a bow say of 31 in compared to one 34 in is that much of a difference in the woods or from a stand.i dont really see much for that purpose.
03-14-2004 | 05:12 PM
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From: East Yapank NY USA
RE: brace ht--myth or fact!
Taking the general agreement between you guys that a very short bow is less accurate.......then why are mfgs. selling them and many archers wanting them? It absolutely makes no sense to use a less accurate bow for hunting.
But we don't need that sort of rig to obtain very good groups.
I believe its very true that short brace and short A-A, high reflex bows are a less stable shooting platform when held by the average archer. But the average archer is willing to give up this small (sometimes not so small) amount of forgiveness to have a lighter, more manuverable hunting bow, that feels good in there hands.
due you really think a bow say of 31 in compared to one 34 in is that much of a difference in the woods or from a stand
03-14-2004 | 05:22 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: brace ht--myth or fact!
String dampeners on some of the more recent designs help keep a shorter brace height more forgiving. The string is stopped earlier thus causing the arrow to release earlier. I don't want to get into a product debate, but my LX is pretty forgiving, being that it only has a 6 5/8 brace height. It is a noticible difference between that and the shorter brace height Z-light that I used to shoot. Again, it all boils down to the shooter. I used a shorter brace height bow with no V-bar or side bars and shot a 305 on a 30 target 3-D range yesterday against guys shooting longer brace height bows with all the gear. Get something that is comfortable and learn to shoot it like a machine. That is where the game is at, be it 3-D or hunting.
03-15-2004 | 05:41 AM
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From: Lehigh County PA USA
RE: brace ht--myth or fact!
Look at all the fun I missed over the weekend. 
My take on this.....
You are talking about small differences in percentages as someone mentioned above. The brace height has to be compared to the specific draw length. A 5 inch brace height bow creates a 20.25 inch powerstroke for someone that has a 27 inch draw length but what percentage of the draw is the powerstroke? 75% in this case. Now take a 30 inch draw length with an 8 inch brac height. That would mean a 23.25 inch powerstroke and a 77.5 percentage. A slightly larger percentage means that you can't really compare the two just by adding or subtracting the same amount to both the brace height and draw length.
In other words, theoretically, a shorter brace height bow should be somewhat more forgiving for a shorter draw length archer but not drastically so....and not in equal proportions to the amount of draw length changed.
I have always believed that a shorter brace height is somewhat more critical to shoot not because of the time on the string but rather because of the increased distance. The longer distance means more of a chance for shooting errors to impact accuracy. Ofcourse, other factors such as riser geometry, limb angle, etc... also all play a part in this as it is difficult to really separate one factor from all of the others.
Hope this helps.
My take on this.....
You are talking about small differences in percentages as someone mentioned above. The brace height has to be compared to the specific draw length. A 5 inch brace height bow creates a 20.25 inch powerstroke for someone that has a 27 inch draw length but what percentage of the draw is the powerstroke? 75% in this case. Now take a 30 inch draw length with an 8 inch brac height. That would mean a 23.25 inch powerstroke and a 77.5 percentage. A slightly larger percentage means that you can't really compare the two just by adding or subtracting the same amount to both the brace height and draw length.
In other words, theoretically, a shorter brace height bow should be somewhat more forgiving for a shorter draw length archer but not drastically so....and not in equal proportions to the amount of draw length changed.
I have always believed that a shorter brace height is somewhat more critical to shoot not because of the time on the string but rather because of the increased distance. The longer distance means more of a chance for shooting errors to impact accuracy. Ofcourse, other factors such as riser geometry, limb angle, etc... also all play a part in this as it is difficult to really separate one factor from all of the others.
Hope this helps.
03-15-2004 | 09:39 AM
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From: West CO
RE: brace ht--myth or fact!
ORIGINAL: PABowhntr
Look at all the fun I missed over the weekend.
My take on this.....
You are talking about small differences in percentages as someone mentioned above. The brace height has to be compared to the specific draw length. A 5 inch brace height bow creates a 20.25 inch powerstroke for someone that has a 27 inch draw length but what percentage of the draw is the powerstroke? 75% in this case. Now take a 30 inch draw length with an 8 inch brac height. That would mean a 23.25 inch powerstroke and a 77.5 percentage. A slightly larger percentage means that you can't really compare the two just by adding or subtracting the same amount to both the brace height and draw length.
In other words, theoretically, a shorter brace height bow should be somewhat more forgiving for a shorter draw length archer but not drastically so....and not in equal proportions to the amount of draw length changed.
I have always believed that a shorter brace height is somewhat more critical to shoot not because of the time on the string but rather because of the increased distance. The longer distance means more of a chance for shooting errors to impact accuracy. Ofcourse, other factors such as riser geometry, limb angle, etc... also all play a part in this as it is difficult to really separate one factor from all of the others.
Hope this helps.
Look at all the fun I missed over the weekend.
My take on this.....
You are talking about small differences in percentages as someone mentioned above. The brace height has to be compared to the specific draw length. A 5 inch brace height bow creates a 20.25 inch powerstroke for someone that has a 27 inch draw length but what percentage of the draw is the powerstroke? 75% in this case. Now take a 30 inch draw length with an 8 inch brac height. That would mean a 23.25 inch powerstroke and a 77.5 percentage. A slightly larger percentage means that you can't really compare the two just by adding or subtracting the same amount to both the brace height and draw length.
In other words, theoretically, a shorter brace height bow should be somewhat more forgiving for a shorter draw length archer but not drastically so....and not in equal proportions to the amount of draw length changed.
I have always believed that a shorter brace height is somewhat more critical to shoot not because of the time on the string but rather because of the increased distance. The longer distance means more of a chance for shooting errors to impact accuracy. Ofcourse, other factors such as riser geometry, limb angle, etc... also all play a part in this as it is difficult to really separate one factor from all of the others.
Hope this helps.
