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Flipout 03-08-2004 02:21 PM

String loop question...
 
I just had a new string put on my bow and I also installed a string loop for the first time. My local shop told me to keep my nock on and put the top of the loop on the outside of nock (above it) and the bottom one below. With obviously enough room to nock the arrow on the string. My question is, do I need to put serving between the bottom of the loop and where my arrow nock is or just let the loop kind of "snug" up against the arrow when it is in position?

Make sense?

gromage1 03-08-2004 02:30 PM

RE: String loop question...
 
I'm not sure if I'd put it snug against the nock, when I first put my loop on it was to close to the nock and when I drew the bow it lifted the front of the arrow. Once the loops tight it shouldn't move at all even if you don't put nock points in. I've seen guys with tied in nock points both above and below the arrow nock inside the loop , as well as just about any combination you can think of, I really think its personal preferance but not really necessary.

Washington Hunter 03-08-2004 06:24 PM

RE: String loop question...
 


This is just how I have mine set up. I nock my arrow on the lower part of the servng. The only reason I have space above is because I tied my loop before I set my nock. When I tried to move the loop I found out I'm very good at tying strong knots! ;)

DoninVa 03-09-2004 06:13 PM

RE: String loop question...
 
I don't see any reason for anything but the loop. I set mine so the nock just fits in the loop. You can let the bow down and the arrow is still nocked and after about 20 shots, you will have to twist the loop to move it. No nock to break your serving or string and the head of the release is right behind the nock. I've shot this way for 5 years and had zero issues or problems;). Don

BobCo19-65 03-10-2004 08:03 AM

RE: String loop question...
 
There are a lot of different way to do it. Personally, I don't use a metal nock. I tie my own on. You can adjust nock just twisting it. It sure makes things easier when you are tuning, no need to uncrimp, and recrimp anything. Tie ons are also lighter. Plus, it will not wear on anything. If you need info on how to tie them on, let me know, anyone can do it.

Anyway back to the question, I put a tie on nock above and below the arrow, I put the string loop on the outside of each nock. I shoot a 37" A to A, and have a 32" draw, so this method eliminates most of the arrow pinch for me.

Flipout 03-10-2004 10:14 AM

RE: String loop question...
 
BobCo

I'd be interested in hearing about how you tie on a nock, shoot back some information on it, this sounds good to me.

Thanks,

BobCo19-65 03-10-2004 10:21 AM

RE: String loop question...
 
Here you go. I'll take a picture of the setup tonight, so you can see what I use. I'm not sure if the link tells you or not, But I take a tiny drop of fletching glue on a toopick and put it on the final knot. Don't put too much on though or it will soak through to the string which you don't want. I use this knot for all tie ons on the string, peeps, slilencers, and nocks. You'll find that when they are tied correctly they will not move unless you twist them on the serving. Let me know how you make out.

http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/featu...hunter/tieone/

Rack-attack 03-10-2004 10:27 AM

RE: String loop question...
 
I do as Bobco - two hand tied nocks above and below the arrow.

I do not like having just the loop - lots of pinch going on as those loop nocks get quite snug to the arrow nock when you draw.

The two nocks give the arrow a little "space" and a cleaner release IMO.

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Flipout 03-10-2004 12:31 PM

RE: String loop question...
 
Great information, this is exactly what I was looking for.

I'm just beginning to "tinker" with my set up for myself so I may be asking quite a few seemingly simple questions in the near future.

Thanks for the feedback.

Flipout 03-10-2004 12:49 PM

RE: String loop question...
 
OK, one more question. What type of string do I use for this? What number? Type? etc...

Is this a universal type string that I can use for Serving and for these types of things?

BobCo19-65 03-10-2004 01:17 PM

RE: String loop question...
 
Personally, I use a .026 diameter braided center serving, but you could use .022. Just don't use monofiliment. It's usually about 13-14 dollars a spool. But it will last an aweful long time.

burniegoeasily 03-10-2004 02:52 PM

RE: String loop question...
 
I have toyed with different methods. I have found I like to put two nocks on. One on either side of the arrow. I then put my loop next to the nocks. I think it is all personal pref.. I have a friend who doesnt even use a nock. He uses his loop as his nock.

Ossage 03-10-2004 03:40 PM

RE: String loop question...
 
There are a lot of little ways people develop for doing their tackle. I can't however think of any good reason for having nocks and a loop. The people who did the slow mo on this system don't recomend any nocking point. You just add weight, and increase the stress on the serving, and add nock pinch to a system that was desinged to eliminate it. Not sure I see the point. I shoot both big and small nocks out of the same loop position, and go back and force. One would thing that would make for haywire results, but it doesn't seem to mater.

DoninVa 03-10-2004 04:50 PM

RE: String loop question...
 
Ossage, my thoughts exactly. If you are going to use nock sets, just shoot off the string. The pinch you get while at full draw will hold your arrow with no chance of falling off. I would think that as the string straightens out on release the pinch would go away and give a clean release. You can let down with your arrow pointed straight down and it doesn't come off. I might be wrong about this as I'm just a dumb ole country boy though:eek:. Don

BobCo19-65 03-15-2004 06:48 AM

RE: String loop question...
 
I irratic flight from arrow pinch happens when the arrow leaves the string because the nock is not in it's full position. If you wonder if you have arrow pinch simple pull your bow with an arrow on to full draw as you normally would and anchor, now let up on the bow and do not release. Is your nock still in position, or did it start to slip off the string somewhat?

I am very prone to it because of the somewhat short A to A and long draw length on my compound. Not a big problem with my 66 inch longbow.

Lady Forge 03-16-2004 07:04 AM

RE: String loop question...
 
Check out the following links in regards to d loops, contains some good pics for instructional puposes.;)
[link]http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68490[/link]
[link]http://www.realknots.com/knots/hitches.htm#cow[/link]


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