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CBM SC 01-30-2004 10:13 AM

Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
I got the first LX in my area last year ! And like some of the first purchasers ...my string stretched and started popping off my roller on the shot. It tore my serving up , but has still been shootable. When we first contacted Mathews ....6 months ago .....they said it was string stretch and not covered under warrenty. Well I got pissed......and even gave a serious look at Bowtechs this year......but as nice as they are.....I still prefer the Mathews line !!!!

But today we called again and ......no problem......their shipping me a new roller guard .......and new strings and cables !! :D

Maybe after all the bad press this year.......their coming back around !! I may keep this bow after all.......I love everything else about it !!

PABowhntr 01-30-2004 11:04 AM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
Glad to see it. That is probably the only real complaint I have ever heard (barring envy) regarding Mathews bows. Picking up their customer service level is a step in the right direction.

tabby 01-30-2004 11:36 AM

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Thats a plus. I am looking into buying a new bow, and was a little down about mathews service. I really like their bows, but if it breaks, I want it fixed, no questions asked.

Straightarrow 01-30-2004 03:39 PM

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In the past Mathews left strings and such, up to the dealer to take care of. With a good dealer you never had any worries. With a poor dealer, you were out of luck. Good competition will usually force better customer service. It means bow companies , in general, are offering better bows and better sevice - this is good.

Jeff K 01-30-2004 06:01 PM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
Sounds like they are finally listening a bit to the people, which said Mathews Service sucked!

GVDocHoliday 01-30-2004 06:15 PM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
Keep on shooting the h*ll out of that mathews. It should last you several years. Getting a new cable roller and strings will make it feel like a brand new bow. At least that's the feeling I got when I got new limbs for my PSE after a small crack.

But hey...we won't tell anyone if you wanna go on and still get a Bowtech. I'm lovin' my Liberty:)

muzzyman88 01-30-2004 08:39 PM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
I have never been a real big fan of their bows. But if they can start getting their customers more involved and bring us what we are looking for more, I think they could be great. Some of their bows spec wise are great, but there is just always something about that given model that I don't like and it sways me somewhere else. For instance, this years bows. I swear I pulled a rib or something tuggin one back at the shop. If they could smooth em out, they would be a lot better.

PA Hardwoods 01-30-2004 08:45 PM

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I have to second what Muzzyman said about the rib. I pulled back some Mathews bows at the same shop and compared them at the same time to the new bowtech's they had just gotten in that same day., and what a difference, The mathews was much rougher and seemed to break over much harder than the bowtechs did. The Bowtechs were very smooth. But as for the Mathews customer service, one person who worked at this particular shop said one of their reasons for getting the bowtech line this year was because of Mathews bad customer service and also their lack of advancement with their bows.

RobinHood36 01-30-2004 08:48 PM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
Eight hunting seasons with my mathews, and I still hav'nt had to tempt their service! ;)

CBM SC 01-31-2004 07:05 AM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
Muzzyman , I am not the best person to explain pre-load .....but the roller guard system causes a more than normal amount ! Most people shooting the newer Mathews aren't checking the poundage . I think the HP cam is very smooth.........and while not as smooth as the Freedom cams ......it's not far off IMO !! But since most of the new Mathews are pulling way over the advertised poundage .....it's hard to tell. My LX will max out at 76# and all others I have seen are hitting 72+ lbs. The Outbacks are the same way !! Drop them to a comfortable range and they're pretty darn smooth......with just a little more hump than the Freedom cam .....to me !! But unknowingly pulling a 75# Outback and then picking up a 70# Liberty would be a night and day difference !! :D

BB9 01-31-2004 09:18 AM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
Mathews service?....I know a guy who backed over his Legacy with his truck. His dealer told Mathews exactly what happened and they sent him a new bow.

GVDocHoliday 01-31-2004 10:09 PM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
The only problem with backing the limbs down is that the bow won't operate at peak efficiency. It's commom knowledge that bow will operate at peak efficiency when the limbs are bottomed out. If mathews bows had pivoting and lock down limb pockets I would actually consider purchasing one. Until then however I'll stick with Hoyt and my new fondled Bowtech Liberty.

Ossage 02-01-2004 01:24 AM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
That's true, but if you run the bow at the high mark, you eliminate a prime oportunity to tune arrow spine etc...

CBM SC 02-01-2004 05:36 AM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 
Doc, I'd agree with you ........but the V-lock bows seem to shoot just as well backed down. I have noticed no difference in accuracy or noise... when backed down .

Straightarrow 02-01-2004 07:59 AM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 

ORIGINAL: GVDocHoliday

The only problem with backing the limbs down is that the bow won't operate at peak efficiency. It's commom knowledge that bow will operate at peak efficiency when the limbs are bottomed out. If mathews bows had pivoting and lock down limb pockets I would actually consider purchasing one. Until then however I'll stick with Hoyt and my new fondled Bowtech Liberty.
In my opinion, this is an extremely minor consideration on today's bows. In real shooting situations, I've never been able to detect any difference between one backed down and one shooting with the limbs bottomed out. In fact, on a couple bows I've owned, the manufacturer advised not having the limbs completely bottomed out. I think they recommended backing the bolts out at least 1/2 turn. If this effects effeciency, it appears to be minor and only possibly a concern to someone who cares about a couple feet per second, which I'm not one. None of my bows have been noticably louder when shooting them backed out.

Personally, I'm turned off by locking limb pockets. They make adjusting draw weight a real pain (I adjust mine several times each year). They add unwanted screws and parts that might fall out or fail. With a hunting bow, I want simplicity and the locking limb pockets don't qualify. They add parts, weight and expensive to a bow, and I cannot see any significant benefit.

Jeff K 02-01-2004 09:49 AM

RE: Maybe Mathews' customer service is coming back around !!
 

ORIGINAL: Straightarrow


ORIGINAL: GVDocHoliday

The only problem with backing the limbs down is that the bow won't operate at peak efficiency. It's commom knowledge that bow will operate at peak efficiency when the limbs are bottomed out. If mathews bows had pivoting and lock down limb pockets I would actually consider purchasing one. Until then however I'll stick with Hoyt and my new fondled Bowtech Liberty.
In my opinion, this is an extremely minor consideration on today's bows. In real shooting situations, I've never been able to detect any difference between one backed down and one shooting with the limbs bottomed out. In fact, on a couple bows I've owned, the manufacturer advised not having the limbs completely bottomed out. I think they recommended backing the bolts out at least 1/2 turn. If this effects effeciency, it appears to be minor and only possibly a concern to someone who cares about a couple feet per second, which I'm not one. None of my bows have been noticably louder when shooting them backed out.

Personally, I'm turned off by locking limb pockets. They make adjusting draw weight a real pain (I adjust mine several times each year). They add unwanted screws and parts that might fall out or fail. With a hunting bow, I want simplicity and the locking limb pockets don't qualify. They add parts, weight and expensive to a bow, and I cannot see any significant benefit.
I agree 100%, if I wanted Limb Pockets that locked like a Hoyt's or Bowtechs, then I would go buy one, but I like the V-Lock pockets that Mathews uses, many people have tried to say since the V-Lock limb pocket is not over the center of the riser that they have tendency to lean, which to my understanding is not true, they just go by speculation!


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