Trophy Taker Problem
 

I have a Mathews Ultra 2 set at 65 lbs. 28.5 inch draw using a Carter hole thing
3 release with a string. I have had the Trophy Taker on and off my bow 8 times
and I can't figure out why I can't get good arrow flight with the rest. I followed
the directions and have set the timing of the rest as directed. I have moved the
center shot to many locations including 13/16 as Mathews suggests from the
riser. I have powder tested and see no contact problems. I get bullet holes
through paper with it but when I shoot outside, like this past fall, my arrows
sway side to side, back and forth. My groups with the rest are great but my
arrows don't fly straight. I have tried tried everything, from nocking point
up and down, to center shot left and right, my arrows I tried are Gold Tip
55/75 cut to 28 1/2 inches with 100 grain tips and 2314's with 100 grain tips.
Frustration then new idea's made me take it on and off the bow. Both arrows
do the same thing, sway left-right, left-right. I do not peek when shooting but
it is obvious as the arrow goes down range. I put a star hunter rest on the bow
and the arrows fly straight and group well. Since I spent the money on the
Trophy Taker (shaky hunter) I would really like to use it. Does anyone out
there have any idea's?

RE: Trophy Taker Problem
 

Maybe the rest is dropping too soon. Have you shot through paper at varying distances?

RE: Trophy Taker Problem
 

Are you talking about broadhead equiped arrows , fishtailing downrange , if so make sure you have enough stearing in the back of the arrow . I use 5 inch feathers on an offset when shooting fixed broadheads and my arrow flight is much improved over when I use to use 4 inch feathers , some even use heilical .If your feild tiped arrows do it allso , Id check for vane contact and that is not the problem , then time the rest to drop at the last posable moment before contact is posable .

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RE: Trophy Taker Problem
 

Why dump a rest that is functioning as it should for one that does not just because you spent good money for it? Junk is junk!

RE: Trophy Taker Problem
 

Why call something " Junk" when that particular rest is considered the "industry standard" for it's type of design, and you rarely hear anything but praise for it?

The TT is built like a tank, and I've found it extremely easy to tune and work with. It's far from what I would call Junk.

And I have not had any issues w/ the cable causing fletching interference...how do you have it set-up? If it's set up at the slide, then I could see that being a problem because that's quite common w/ other similar styles like the NAP & Cavalier AE.

Hooked into the down cable there is no way it could cause fletching contact.

Also I find it interesting that a side pressure launcher was the only rest that gave good groups and good flight. Could be a torque induced problem from the release (rope) or your anchor, or vertical nock travel issues.

I doubt the real issue is with the rest, but that the drop-away design is not offering enough support to compensate for the real problem whatever it may be.

RE: Trophy Taker Problem
 

Now thats a nail with its head hit :D;)

RE: Trophy Taker Problem
 

The rest should reach its upright position only a couple of inches before you reach full draw. Make sure that you can still come forward 2-3 inches from the full draw position before the rest starts to move downwards. If the rubber is too tight, then the rest may not drop away in time and you can still get the arrows striking the rest.
I've taken this information from an article, maybe it worth checking this out.
Tuning will take some time, so relax, avoid frustration and enjoy what you're trying to achieve.
You can also check if there's any side to side movement on your cam, this is another area that can cause bad arrow flight. Seeing that your bow is a single cam-- you can eliminate cam timing problems.

RE: Trophy Taker Problem
 

I have checked both the cam and idler wheel for leaning problems and all is
o.k. there. I am using 100 gr. field points. I think Jeff hit the nail on the head.
I have wondered if, with the rope on my release, I am some how creating
torque when I anchor the release next to my cheek. Or he could be right, it
may be a nock travel issue. Sure is frustrating. Jeff or anyone else, can you
suggest a drop away that might work for me? Jeff what rest are you using now?
Guess it's time to sell the Trophy Taker.

RE: Trophy Taker Problem
 

Where did everyone get the idea that a drop away rest would help cure form errors????? There isn't anything majical about a drop away rest, if you have good form it will work, if your form isn't so good it won't work any better than anything else.. :(