Why should I get a string supressor?
 

Thinking about getting one for my Mathews Switchback XT, but don't know if it would help me out or not!

It should help to quite your bow. I have some bows with them, but on all. My quietest bow doesn't have one.

I believe your mathews has the suppressors built in up near the cam and idler wheel. I have a suppressor on all my bows, it not only helps quiet the bow and tame string oscilation but it also helps with wrist slap and hitting your sleeve when wearing bulky cloths in late season.

Really, and how does it do that?:confused0024:

If you're getting wrist slap it's because the bow the draw length is too long, or you just have some really bad form.

NO it doesn't,with some of these low brace bows and bulky clothes,the sleeve will be in the string path the last couple of inches.The string suppressor stops this last bit of string travel,therefore decreasing chance of it hitting your clothing.

It does help with string buzz. It doesn't work miracles.

Rev.

It helps with alot of things like string buzz. It also stops the string from moving much further than brace height after the shot, thats where you tend to get wrist slap with these 5 or 6 inch brace height bows and also when you wear a big cold weather parka it can be near impossible to keep your sleeve out of the strings path unless you wear an arm guard or something to keep your sleeve tight to your arm.

So what did we do before they came out with those? I've been shooting for 40 years, and I stand behind what I said... if you popping your hand your shooting the wrong draw lenght or you have really crappy form. I've never had a problem without them. If the cable would travel two inches past a surpressor, the you would split the rubber end of the surpressor.
If you have a problem with string buzz then you need to put on good string silencers.

What bow you shoot has 5" BH? Even my longbows don't have that.

Mark mine do,, when the string twist..:barmy: I pulled out a bow I made about six months ago and put on the wrong string and I had about 4 inch brace height.:s2:

That might slap your wrist. No string stop is going to stop that.

Arm guards,they have been around for years for this.

Ever notice that some of the best archers in the world at Vegas or Fita field wearing arm guards? I have and it is not because of bad form or too long of a draw length.

I believe that a brace height like that would pop my thumb.:s3:

I use a arm guard on my long bows, but I never with a compound, even when my hunting bows that are an inch longer than what I normally shoot. I agree with loose fitting clothes you can make a noise, but there are ways to deal with that and an arm guard would help in that case.

I'm not against surpressors at all ( some of my bows have them), I just don't think they need to be installed to keep the string from popping your arm.

In the case of NEED,I agree and I will sometime wear an arm guard with certain clothes just in case.I will almost never need it but that 1 time I do,I am glad I have it.

A lot of the old low brace bows would hit your wrist from the string moving side to side as it came back.The string suppressors do help against that.

I was joking with Mark (Bigcountry) about my brace height too low on a long bow I made, but only because I put the wrong string on it. I check the brace height on my self bows with my fist and a thumb up to make sure I don't need to put a twist on my string.

A string suppressor will ABSOLUTELY stop arm/string contact...

Rev, you shoot targets right? Probably are well experienced or at least know about back tension and a good explosive shot...

Well, even with my pro-elite with an 8 5/8" bh when the shot would break, the string oscilation(back and forth/side to side) would rub my arm. Im not talking about slap, but rub after it passes brace.

If you would question my form, I'm sure TFOX can attest for me a thousand times that I shoot too short of a draw length, and my form/execution is pretty damn good;)

Not every bow will hit often, but ones with a lot of feed back and forwards jump(mainly target rigs) will hit the arm after the shot. I've had 2 xforce 6's(original hf, and an 09 GX both with 6"bh), as well as a 5.5" brace height omen and none ever hit my arm, but with a large jacket would get close to coming in between the suppressor and string(eventually sold the omen due to this when it got cold after i killed 2 early season deer with it)

Suppressors sometimes make a good difference in noise and speed, but other bows i've set up have had little difference. The HF6 xforce made a lot of difference in both hand shock, and noise, and also picked up a little over 1fps, while my bowtech guardian had no change in noise or hand shock...

different results for different setups....

Everybody's arms are different. I don't get wrist slap and I use a straight arm (no bend). I see many people that needed an arm guard before, don't need one with a String Stop. I have an STS on my bow for 3 years and it works very well, the bow is quieter. I don't even put silencers on my string anymore.

I use a straight arm as well and if i punch/command the release, I wont ever hit my arm, but when using back tension and pulling through the shot, after the bow jumps forward the string will graze my arm. String stopper on, problem disappears...

Like I said I have some bows with them and some without. I've been shooting a long, long, long time.... And I survived without one for many years. I just don't depend on one to stop the string from popping my arm.. I do wear an arm guard with my longs bows however..

Personally I won't lose one minute of sleep if you have one or not.:s2:

Ive been shooting awhile myself and didnt use one for years. Thats the problem with guys who have been shooting a long, long, long time. They tend to get stuck in the old school way of thinking. As far as Im concerned there is only advantages when using one and no drawbacks. So why not use one.

When I said 5 and 6 inch brace height bows I meant in that range, not exactly those brace heights.There are several bows that are in the neihborhood of 5.5-6.5 inch brace heights. Just to name a few makers that offer bows with low brace heights, PSE, Bowtech, Elite.

and mathews with their 5" and 6" monster series bows...

Now you don’t know what you’re talking about! I am on the forefront of new innovative products I’m not only into archery, I live it and breathe it. I work outdoor events promoting the sport and shoot competition and demonstrate long range shooting. I hardly doubt that I’m not in tune with what is going on in archery.
I’ve seen gimmicks come and go, and seen lots of money thrown down the trash on junk because most archers are like sheep, following others that don’t know squat bout archery!
I didn’t say that the STS doesn’t work, it was intended to be a STRING SURPRESSOR ( and it works for that), not a freaking arm guard!
Before you go spouting off at someone learn who you are spouting off about!
And if you read my post, I SAID I HAVE SOME BOWS THAT HAVE ONE AND SOME THAT DON'T! Mean V on this forum makes a hell of a good one at that!

I read your posts and saw that you have some with suppressors. If I recall correctly you were the one spouting off about my comments on a string suppressor and critisizing my thoughts on how it does help with the string splapping the arm. If you dont think it helps with that take a look at any high speed video of a bow equipted with a suppressor and one without. There is no need for me to learn who Im spouting off about, specialy when they are more worried about what they think they know instead of learning what they dont know. I dont question your involvement in archery or the outdoors. Thats great to have all the cridentials but it still doesnt excuss the fact that you are wrong when you dont think a string suppressor helps a shooter that is having problems with string slap, weather it be on his bare skin or when wearing a heavy hunting jacket. Yes some shooters suffer string slap when they have bad form but I dont care what form you have if your wearing enough cloths to keep warm in minus zero weather your probably gonna have issues with hitting your sleeve. I garentee you a suppressor helps with that.

I will totally agree with this(not ganging up on ya rev:arms:) and say that this is a great attribute for the thing that is suppossed to only tame noise;) Im touching my bare arm with my 41" ata 7" bh C4 right now occassionally and I believe with a jacket and the exact same shot process i would certainly hit my arm, if not every time. It would take a high speed video though to see if it was before or after the arrow left though:kt:

I'm shoot a 29 in DL. My hunting bows are 30 DL just cause I want the extra speed shooting 543 gn arrow with 21% FOC.
I don't have a surpressor on it, I never pop my arm and for all practical purposes I should with the extra inch.

I will teach you both how to shoot if you allow me to.:biggrin:
come to my indoor range in Texas, and I'll be glad to give you some free lessons. Normally I get 25.00 an hour for private lessons, I'll wave it for you both.:throw:..

If any of you folks get around to figuring out a way to make the XT even quieter, I'm interested in knowing what it is.

Rev,
I appreciate the offer on the lessons but truth be told I can hold my own against most anyone and Im not sure where are discusion about a string suppressor in any way made you think I need shooting lessons. The fact that you instruct people on how to shoot is great but in no way does that make me think your any better of an archer than I am. Just because you shoot an inch long draw doesnt mean you will get arm slap. I shoot a 29" draw and truth its a tad long for me but like you side the extra speed is nice. If you have good enough form to get away with a longer draw its beneficial,but some people arent consistant enough to do it.

I try and give you the respect and benefit of the doubt, and now your arrogant ass offers me lessons hahahahaha. Im looking at becoming an nfaa certified coach right now, so I'm not sure you know who YOU are talking to. Ill be in louisville at the indoor nationals next march. Maybe you can teach me how to shoot there...

Oh, and btw, shooting a longer draw for speed:happy0157:

Funny,drock shot winter leagues this year as a teamate of a level IV instructor that works with the olympics as well.He has shot in my yard and on the range with me and I can tell you he is still a slight bit short on the draw and also has a good grip.He is a big man and has a big frame and string oscillation can get anyone under the right circumstances.When you get behind your shot properly,you get closer to the string path and someone with big forearms may need to where an arm guard or utilize a string suppressor.BUT he doesn't need one.He just stated that sometimes he can feel the the string touch his skin.

Of course,you can shorten up.Open your stance,as well as shoulders to create more clearance but that creates more issues than it solves.

Here you go,this guy is in need of some instruction.Maybe you can give him a lesson.:s12:

This is a great thread/replies and and due to being new to archery I learn a lot!:happy0001:
Jesses HuntinG
Avid NRA Life Member

Thanks for calling me an arrogant ass.. I appreicate it, I know I'm arrogant, but I know my #$%^..

Leaning back, arm extended very straight, and the fool needs an arm guard:rolleye0011:

Oh wait, he does pretty well usually doesnt he:s12:

I have no doubt you know your stuff Rev. Ill let you in on a little secret though. When you come accross as arrogant as you are nobody really gives two sh*ts what you know or what you think you know cause its near impossible to see through the ego you have built around yourself. I would say Im supprised that you make $25 an hour teaching lessons but I am pretty confident that those people paying that are probably the "sheep" that follow and do anything you were refering to in a previous post. There are alot of very accomplished archers on here with or without cridentials, some flaunt them and some just keep to themselfs. The ones that are the most accomplished are the ones that get on here and actualy help people, not the ones that are on here spreading their arrogance and trying to beef up their ego.

I'd starve to death on 25.00 an hour I only do it for a select few, I'm far to busy making money to waste my time on teaching!
I don't need to beef up my ego, I'm just not a fad junkie like most of the wantabees. I just get so sick and tired of hearing guys ask questions and all they get back is freaking personal opinions from some that don't know squat!
The problem with archery is that most guys learn from those who don't know Jack. I see them all the time on the 3D course. Those that are shooting 250- 275 are trying to teach others their own bad habits. Not arrogant just tired of listening those those that think they know!

Thats funny you say that cause I feel the exact same way. The majority of guys dont know much about archery. Some of them, usualy the ones that come off all defensive and arrogant are the ones that think they know alot more than what they actualy do. Just about every time I shoot a 3-D shoot, or an indoor shoot for that matter, I see these guys with there staff shrits with there 3-D bows with their magnified sights and thier 4ft stabilizers and binos. It always happens once I finish the shoot one or more of them come up to me and ask "so what was your score" and once I show them my score card they usualy have this look on their face like they are about to cry and then they walk off. I still cant figure out why that is, I guess its possible that I might actualy know what Im doing when it comes to archery.

I agree... They usually shy off when they see a 300 plus card.:happy0001: ... That reminds of of the guy that shot a tournament several years ago how that must have been using a telephone pole for a stab. He had on a pretty Hoyt shirt, 300.00 sun glasses, and talking trash.. When it was over I don't think he looked up walking away empty handed!:wave: Bye, I told him while going to get my check.
I'm out of this one it's getting no where fast.. Take care.