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Got my Limbdriver and installed it today. Super solid/simplly designed and talk about easy to setup (good vid on the VT website). No having to split a bow-cable and draw and re-draw a bazillion times to get the rest timing correct, then try to serve in the tie cord without messing up the timing, etc etc. Not only that, fresh out of the package the spring tension was pretty much perfect as was the centershot- I only had to do a very minor adjustment on launcher height.

In addition, despite the fact that I had tried to get the tension as light as possible on the buss cable with the Cobra dropaway I was using, it must have been having some tension effect as it approached full draw. The Admiral feels noticably easier to draw at the back end now with the Limbdriver. Binaries seem very sensitive to this. My GT-500 is the same way.

So thanx to Dan (MeanV) for getting the rest out to me so quickly, but I do have a few questions to those who use/are familiar with it.

1) Not 100% positive, but it sure seems like the cable/rope is going to cause a little noise/vibe at the shot-anyone have noise issues? I was thinking a Bowtech squid or Jax silencer would prolly work- anyone tried this?

2) Vaportrail reccos just leaving a tag end of about 2" of cable/rope after it passes through the arm attachment set screw (for fine tuning as the cable stretches in). Has anyone actually ran the rope up the other side and served/tied it in? Seems like that would be much less worrisome (I don't trust small set screws on materials with "give")

3) Anyone put a jam nut on the back side of the screw for the split limb attachment? neccessary?


Tomorrow night I hopefully can get up to the range and give her a go!

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Limbdriver is a very nice rest. I have it on the two bows I am currently shooting and will have it on the bow I am currently setting up.

1. If the cable/rope makes noise I haven't noticed it.

2. I run the rope up the other side and serve/tie it in.

3. Not sure what a jam nut is so I guess I haven't found it to be necessary LOL :D.

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I wrap the extra 2-4" of cord around my tecriser bar on my hoyt. On my other ones i had setup i just tied it back around the cord and it worked fine. When tuning, ive actually just tied the cord around the arm to get it to activate just enuff to shoot and adjust, and it still works well. As far as the sound the cord makes... Ive never heard it and ive had them setup on 3 different bows. The set screw holding in the cable has never gave me a fit... but the allens on the underside have[:o] So... make sure you check all the little allens that are on the axle, b/c if the one gets loose, it will cause the launcher to over pivot.

Other than that one little incident ive never had a problem out of any of mine.

Derek

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Thanks fellas- will have to see whether noise is an issue or not once I shoot it, and I doublechecked all the screws!


"jam nut' is Virginia-ese for a "nut that jams up the other side there so nuttin will move on yas!"

i.e. that's stupid for "a nut"

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Jeff, I had two different rests that have a small set screw to hold the cable in place and never, in 3 years had it slip or cause an issue. My new Whammy uses this configuration and I actually prefer it for ease of tweaking.

You could always just melt the pull rop down to a ball tight against the rest. If its going to stretch...its going to get longer anyway.

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No noise issue for me. The extra cord I just cut off and melted a ball onto the end. My bow is solid limb so no jam nut. I love this rest.

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let me know what u think of the LD on ur admiral. i am either going to get a LD or whammy for my admiral. i cant make up my mind

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Pretty much what I was thinking.

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Anybody who says 'yas' in the state of VA is definately not from here. And having been born and raised here, I've never heard the term 'jam nut' either.

Additionally, most of the stupid people we have here are from the north... the 'Virginia-ese' [sic] term for them is 'come-here's', but damn yankees is still often used.


As to the limb driver.... certainly is an easy set up.... as I've said before, it could be done by an orangatan while blindfolded and drunk. I just wish it was fully contained... but I might stick one on my incoming target bow as I think it would be a nice rest to have.

Jeff one thing to add.... I think that serving the tag end up and aroundto the main line is a fine idea, but make sure that you identify the shortest route to it. Things aren't going to fall up naturally, and while you'll still have the set to hold the cord taught, if it does ever back itself out youdon't want to have a long loop created by your tag end that could say wrap over the end of the bar or in any way change the timing of your drop.

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Jeff, I put string Jax on mine because it only takes a second. I doubt there is much noise there, but that should take care of any there is.

The Limb Driver is the simplest Dropaway I've setup, and day in day out out performs all others.

You mean serve it in like this?;)

I also put very little pressure on the cord from the set screw. I just slightly snug.

Dan

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The New Capture armsare in stock and available. You can actually adjust them to hold you arrow in place while the bow is turned upside down.

I never thought I needed one as I've never had a problem as is, but I will put one on just so I know how well they work!;)

Dan

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Born and raised myself- Father and his family from Moneta/Bedford- I grew up in NOVA (back when it was still fairly rural-not like now)- y'all is more common, but I've heard "yas" as a plural as well. Jam nut also common growing up in my family/father's circle of friends. And def I came from a "damn yankees" saying family



Thanx for the tip- I thought about that as well.

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Yup I was thinking something like what you have there Dan-

How soft is the containment piece on the new launcher? Things like that kind of make me wonder- there HAS to be some un-natural downward pull/pressure on the arrow to some extent as the rest snaps down- especially if it;s tight enough to hold the arrow in place when you turn the bow nearly upside down.

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Bedford is certainly a place you'd hear it. NOVA now constitutes anything north of Fredricksburg... damn shame too... used to be a really pretty part of the state.... now its just an oozing parking lot. Its almost impossible to make it to an Orioles game anymore... you have to leave at 9am to make it there for a 735pm game time. Hell be just as easy for me to take the BBT and go up the eastern shore.

Anyway... sorry to hijack.

Dan you got a picture of that full containment/holder system for the limb driver?

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Jeff, The capture armhas a built in cradle in the arm. You can make it as tight or loose as you prefer. Personally I've never had a need, but many fill they need some type of containment.

Dan

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SC, I hope there is a pic up on my website in the next day or 2.

Dan

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Oh don't get me started- I go home to see my Mom once or twice a year and while it's nice, it makes me really sad when I show my GF (from NY) "I used to go fishing there...".."I used to bowhunt here"..."me and my dad went quail hunting there" I"I used to camp there" now it's all housing developments. One of my buddys back home lived in a townhouse development that was my Father's best friends farm/dog kennel- I practically grew up there hunting and fishing :(

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Y'know I totally spaced out about the containment launcher...the arrow will snap out of the holder at full draw, right? It's not holding the arrow at full draw like that NAP flipper/freedom rest?

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Jeff, It could snap out or just lift out, depending on how tight/loose you set it.

Once it lifts out the deep forks on the launcher has it cradled.;)

Dan

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I was just going to mention the capture arm. I like the fact that there are different launcher arms available now. I never had any issues with containment, but it certainly would be a nice addition to have. I have NO noticeable noise from the cord, but then again, I'm not a huge noise freak, nor do I believe it plays a major role in harvesting an animal (unless of course it's a monstrous noise). As for the extra cord, many just tie a loose knot, and melt the tag end to prevent slippage.

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Im actually using the target style launcher on my LD right now, and i believe i will use it for hunting next year if i can adapt the containment arms to it. I see no need in having the wider launcher if your arrow is held anyway.

Jeff, i forgot about this pic but this is how my 101st setup was. It had mike carter's strings on it and he made me a LD cord to match the rest of the strings.




THat seemed to do very well. It was super easy to adjust b/c all i had to do to change the up/down of the launcher was take off the bottom part of the cable and twist it, thus tightening or loosening the tension. Im probably going to make one like this for my AM now that i can do it for myself, i just havent gotten around to it yet.

Derek

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Derek,
The Capture Launcher is a complete launcher in itself, that replaces the entire launcher.

I've never had to readjust tension on the cord that attaches to the Limb once I set it up.

Guess I'm lucky!;)

Dan

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Dan,

Question for you. With the LD, is it possible to mount the rest in such a fashion that the arrow passes through the berger holes on the bow without have to mount the rest itself farther back, away from the shelf?

The reason I ask is that I am constantly finding that most rests will not allow this configuration on the Bowtechs. The holes are simply too low to achieve this without mounting the rest so far back that either A. the prongs are behind the shelf, or B. youraise the rest up and cut down theprongs to shorten them to lower the arrow.

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See Pic on previous page. I set all my Bows to go through the center of the Berger hole.

Actually a rest is a little more forgiving if set back a tad.;)

Dan

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In the pic it looks like the launcher contacts the shelf, and is cusioned by the foam. Is this correct?

That is what I have ended up with when I set up my QAD hunter as well, it seems to work OK.

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Dan,

I was hoping that it was just an adapter[:@] Oh well, either way it doesnt really matter i dont guess...

The only reason i ever had to adjust the cordwas when i was changing DW back and forth on my 101st. I was going back and forth (not often) between 61 and 53#'s for spots. It was just convenient to be able to add or subtract a few twist to get the rest back to the right level.

MuzzyMan---

Here is a pic from my 101st. It was pretty much centered on the berger hole. I was using axis shafts so they are pretty easy to do it with. The launcher is thin, not bulky so it makes it really easy to acomplish a good angle.

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You are correct!:D

Derek, The poundage change explains why you have to mess with the cord. My Bows get buried and stay that way, but then I don't shoot indoors anymore;)

Dan

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Oh yeah...LimbDriver RAWKS!

No noise issues.

Arrow flight right out of the gate was absolutely brilliant. Once I got the sight dialed in I was tagging nocks on the Maxima Selects (thank god for those new nock collars).

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I new you would like it.:)

I would too,but I like my Whammy and it doesn't have the long cable for me to rip my rest off my bow with.[&:]:D

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TFOX You got long cables on your Bow![8D]

You might rip your cams off if you get'em hung up;)

Dan

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A rest is a little more touchy than a cam.I have had my bow string get hung up on tree limbs and even branches on the ground to the point I had to bounce my bow up and down to free it.I would hate to think that was the rest cable.[:-]

Probably has alot to do with the kinds of trees I choose to sit in.I never sit in straight telephone poles.[8D]

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I'd prefer no cable at all, but I reckon I'll just have to be extra careful! (assuming I actually get into the woods with it this year).

I love it when a bow sets up and drives tacks right out of the box/off the shelf with just an "eyeball" type setup. Both the GT500 and the Admiral have shot magnificently for me from the word "go". I NEVER dreamed I'd be shooting as well as I am having taken 4 years (plus) off from shooting. And I'm stacking arrows at 20 with VERY LITTLE effort on my part. These Binary cams are the real deal- fast, super easy to tune, pinpoint accurate and very forgiving to shooting form errors (especially torque-unlike single cams).

It took me a few arrows to get my sight dialed in on the Admiral, and then it was all money. The Arrow flight was as pretty as could be @ 290 FPS. Obviously the LD is doing a very good job at a smooth/controlled launch with staying up as long as it does.

When I think 10 years back at what kind of BS I had to go through to get 290 FPS w/a similar weight arrow- 6.25" brace height Darton Mav that drew smoothly but felt and sounded like a 300 MAG going off- yeesh. And that bow was too flipping sensitive. My HCA Force Supreme (6" brace) was a bit better for noise and recoil but it too required some serious form. We've come a LOOOOONNNGGGG way, baby!

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Sometimes taking a break helps your shooting.;)

But I agree,the equipment and the LD along with my whammy are extremely easy to setup and get shooting well.

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Thats the troof! I am making it a habit to shoot 20-30 good arrows , and put the bow away. Positive reinforcement. One of my worst habits prior was shooting too many arrows, too often.

I'm done buying bows for the year (barring a lotto win)- But I'd like to give that Spott Hogg rest a try as well in the future- like the concept.

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You had that one coming buddy!!!:D

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Yea I guess,I was being just a little sarcastic:D

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I know I know:D I like to use my bowas a brush blocker/spider web tearer downer lol! I dont care how prettythe bow iswhen it comes to brush and spiders in my face[8D]

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Dan and all, if you draw back with the LD and have to let up, does this seem to make a little noise? Mine seemed to do so, like the arrow rattling or something like that. Or was this just me? At any rate, I am looking forward to seeing the new containment for the LD. Might give it another try with one of those.

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Ed, You can see on page 2 the way I have mine setup. Regardless of what I do, draw, let down, or shoot it makes absolutely No noise.

Dan

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Break the cord on the Limbdriver...just replace it and you're ready to go...Break the cord on the Whammy and you have to retime and retune...