2002 Bowtech Patriot finish??
 

I have a 2002 model Bowtech Patriot,just bought it last Novemeber,I' m shooting this bow for TARGET' s only,never hunted with it,I have a Bowtech PRO38 that I use for hunting.The problem I have is,the finish on the riser around the grip is wearing off,almost white in color now.Is anyone else having the same problem with any of there Bowtech bows?I have e-mailed Bowtech about this,they say they DO NOT warranty the finish?In my opinion that SUCKS!Like I said the bow is less then 5 months old and loks like CRAP! And looks like Bowtech isn' t going to do anything about it??[:@]

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I have a 2002 BKII that I bought in September last year. The only complaint i have is the finish. Not good at all, I hunt with mine, shoot it every day and the finish is wearing bad down the sides of both limbs and around the limb pockets. It is getting shiny like you describe. I didn' t bother e mailing them, says right in the manual they don' t warranty the finish. I would imagine I am going to have to spray paint mine before next bow season. I love the bow but that is a pretty cheap and unprofessional job for a high end product.

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My ' 02 Pat single' s finish is wearing around the grip but that' s all, probably because I can' t put it down:D I' ve seen other bow' s finish wearing also and I think it' s just normal wear for that type of film dipped plastic. Hand lotion, sweat and bug repellent also can cause degrading of the finish and if your hands are as rough as mine, they are like sand paper. I' ve seen Mathews bows wear in the grip area also, I had two of them for a while. It' s only new for a while. I could be wrong but I think Color Works applies the camo for a number of bow companies and I thought I read where BowTech was working on obtaining their own dipping facility. Maybe new processes will be developed soon but I haven' t seen yet a deer or target that refused to hold still because my bow showed a little experience;). Love them BowTech' s!!!

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Nobody in the industry I' m aware of warranties a film-dip finish. Too difficult to handle as there is no way any sort of consistent guidelines could be made to handle every problem or situation. If the bow was brand new and the dip was falling off, then I could see maybe someone replacing it, but not after several months of use, and normal wear from shooting it.

Like Russ said, so many things can wear the finish off..even excessive sweat. That' ' s why I really miss those old Hoyt anodized camo finishes. They are just too expensive and time consuming though for manufacturers to utilize in high volume.

I used to have a cheap customer who wouldn' t pay for scent eliminating sprays..he would buy isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) at the drug store and spray it on everything to kill smell . He sprayed it all over his PSE painted limbs and the paint wore clean off! You could see through the limb as it was " clear glass" .

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I have an old saying that may apply here.
Chrome DON' T get you home.

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I think the finish on both my 03 bowtechs is a quality finish - looks great and is layed on well.

It is not however as resistant as my 97 mathews finish.

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Did all of the older bows have adonized finishes on them? I have a Golden Eagle bought in 96 with Advantage finish and it still looks as new as the day I got it. It seems like alot of the older bows I see have more durable finishes than the newer ones. These newer dipped finishes look a lot better out of the box but I would rather have one that lasts.

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I have an older Martin with an anodized finish that will never come off, though it doesn' t look at good as the new finishes. My newer Martin has lost the film dip, on several spots, but I just touch it up with some " hobby enamal paints" . I blend my own camo colors and put it on to match the original pattern, the best I can. It has worked quite well and the touched up areas are very durable. Not a big deal in my eyes.

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[:o] Didn' t even consider the " paint" would wear off of my mighty mite. Guess I got used to the extreme durability of my OLD mathews z-lights finish. I think I got it in 1996 and have used it each year since as my primary hunting bow- and the finish still looks great, except in small places where I allowed it to get nicked.

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I can' t say for sure but the target colored bows should be an anodized finish on the riser and maybe an epoxy paint on the limbs which would be more durable than the plastic film dip. You should see a friend of mine' s old Jennings T Star ? ithink it is. It' s just an original black finish of some sort but it' s almost all gone and there is a LOT of shiny aluminum showing. He kills deer and turkeys every year and has no desire to get a new bow.

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There might be one....;):D

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[quote]ORIGINAL: PABowhntr


Dont know if they warranty or not but two of my buddies sent in their Q2XL' s and they sent the riser' s and limb cup' s back good as new...;)

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I have had my PAT for about a year now, and the finish hasn' t worn anywhere but around the grip, but it hasen' t even worn enoufgh to worry about. I have shot this bow at least 4 times a week since I bought it, and it is still in showroom shape. I can' t say why it is wearing off but it might have to do with what kind of sling that you are using. I made my own finger sling up and it is made out of a really soft rope so it doesn' t wear on my finish, but you may have a sling that is wearing your finish, might be something to check out.

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I seem to remember Martin taking care of an issue like this before. I don' t know who Frank is referring to but- why so secretive PA?:D

I' d hate to think Bowtech wouldn' t work with me if I had premature finish problems with my 40.

I know Mathews has replaced a guy' s bow that he ran over with his truck on accident. You' d think " premature" problems with the finish would be taken care of. You have to draw the line somewhere though.

-Chief

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I have had an 02 Patriot for 1 year. I shoot 2-3 times a week and have had no camo problems. For the guy who' s sides of the limbs are wearing, how are you transporting it, and what kind of case are you using?

Good Luck!

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I really could care less about a camo finish wearing out. But I can see guys being pissed if ths bow is only a few months old. When your paying 5-6-7 hundred you would hope your getting quality in every aspect of the bow.

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I agree that if it were to come straight out of the box with a bad job it should be and would be replaced or repaired, but after 5 or 6 months how can any company tell how the bow was treated and how the film dip came off? Bug sprays, solvents, etc., etc. will take it off... Even a bow case can take it off especially if flying with it.

Trying to get the film dip redone would be like me telling a car dealer... My car has 10,000 miles on it and the brake pads are worn out, but I didn' t use the brakes " that hard" so will you replace them for free?... JMHO...

It' s a normal wear part...

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Camo Shmamo. Who cares if it comes off. Does it shoot straight?

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Now Now Kelly you know that when some of the camo comes off around the grip it causes you to torque the bow due to the uneven grip you now have to use and as a result the arrows fly all over the place[:o];):D

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GGEEEZZZ! That' s it! You are torquing your bow and the finish is coming off!!! I' m working on eliminating my hand torque, I just cut the holy crap out of my thumb on my band saw:( and it didn' t take very long at all[:o]!!!!

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I had a martin cougar 2001 model, the film dip was coming off around the grip area, martin was nice enough to replace the riser with a new one.
I think you can say , they stand behind their products!

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Yes, mine is wearing off, but that will happen with almost ALL film dipped bows, and will for a long time. The sweat from your hands deteriorate the film, and it just kinda melts away over time. Personally, I don' t really care, but for target shooters that want a really nice looking bow, they usually get Anodized risers. (I' m gonna be one of ' em just soon! LOL)

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Just thought I' d give my 2cnts. worth. I bought my patriot in may of last year, About two days later I noticed that there was a like a swirl on one corner of the top of the limb pocket. A little disapointed in that, but decided not to let it bother me. Guess I should of inspected a little better before I bought it. About 3 mnths. later I started noticing the camo fade on the front of the grip on the riser and also on some edges of the riser. By the way, I always keep it in a padded case and I use a bow stand. I have a 98' martin that looks brand new that I' ve shot A LOT more than this one. Also had a 91' Darton with no problems.
My thoughts; good shooting bow, inavative designs, looks good out of the box, but don' t brag to your buds about the paint job after a year of shooting.
I would gladly and willingly trade the paint job on it for my old martin. If nothing else,IMO, it makes you more confident in your bow if it can look like it can take a beating and keep on ticking.
Paint job gets a D- [:' (]
One other thing that I was dissapointed in, is that the bow that I ordered and recieved was a 27" draw. The birth certificate that I got with it said that it was a 28" bow and it was tested at that. Also, the serial number on the BC on the bow don' t match up. Whats up with that!?!
Just my thoughts.

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If the dealer had more than one in stock then, it' s pretty obvious the dealer gave you the wrong birth certificate with your bow...

OR...

It' s unlikely but not impossible that the factory may have gotten the birth certificates switched around at the plant...

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Back when the film dip was coming off my Martin, I had heard that Martin had replaced risers on several customer bows, because of the film dip coming off. I didn' t really care enough to ask for a new riser, but I thought it showed a lot of customer concern for Martin to take care of a problem that wasn' t under warranty.

At the time I purchased my Martin, there was a customer in the shop who was picking up an older Martin that was in for repair. The bow was about 10 years old and had to have a new riser. Martin replaced it for free, even though the bow was sold with only a five year warranty. It was an eye opening experience for me. A company that would take care of a customer problem that was not warranteed, without hassle, was worth looking at. I had heard of many customers pulling their hair out, when dealing with some mfgs over problems on bows with a lifetime warranty. From that point on, I paid little attention to whether a bow came with a lifetime warranty. For me, it is now more important to deal with a company with the right attitude when dealing with customer concerns. I' m not suggesting that every bow with film dip coming off, should be replaced, just that each situation should be handled on it' s own merits, by the manufacturer.