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Old 09-16-2008, 12:04 PM
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I am shooting an '05 bow with 4" vanes on myarrows.
When I shoot through my whisper bisquit, many of my arrows have the vanes torn ub by the whisper bisquit.
Being that the arrows were assembled in '05, would that have an impact on the destruction of my vanes?
Could it be the age of the fletching glue?
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Old 09-16-2008, 01:16 PM
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I only shoot feathers with a WB.... A very worn feather will still fly true. Feathers will also generally give tighter groups, as a vane will flex as it passes through...
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Old 09-16-2008, 02:12 PM
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I guess that throws blazers out the window?
Is it the whole feathers concept?
I never had a problem until this year. My vanes were getting ripped apart by the whisper bisquit.

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Old 09-16-2008, 03:00 PM
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Alot of it comes down to personal preference. I hunt/shoot with friends that use WB's with vanes, and none of us are bulls eye everytime shots. So the difference is grouping isn't really noticeable to us. However, we all drop deer the same. The biggest difference is that they are replacing their vanes regularly while I'm still using the feathers that were put on arrows origianlly. My target arrows "whisp" through the air, but still fly true. My hunting arrows still are dead silent...

They like their vanes and I like my feathers. If you like your vanes and don't mind having to replace em from time to time, stick with em... It's your rig, set it up how you like it best...
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:25 PM
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Default RE: vanes and a whisper bisquit

You guys that say the WB is tearing up your vanes, are you using the B2 or the old version of the WB? Just curious
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:51 PM
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I have used the WB many times with this same results. Its just the nature of the beast. Worn down vanes will fly very well.
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:27 AM
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Default RE: vanes and a whisper bisquit

blazers actaully work better than the longer vanes. They are stiffer and of coarse shorter. I shot probably 50 shots on one arrow with blazers and saw no damage to the vane. I switched to the QAD though afterwards so I cant give you 100+ shot experience..

The guy that had the biscuit before me shot 4inch vanes with no issues also. This was the new droptine one if that matters. I know they switched the whiskers on the newer models to help.

i'd try blazers and see.. I didnt have any issues, but then again i only shot 50 or so shots

My biscuit was very accurate.. just hated the loud draw sound. If it was more silent, i'd still use it
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:58 AM
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Default RE: vanes and a whisper bisquit

I have been shooting the WB for 3 years now. I shoot wraped arrows with blazers. I have yet to tear a vane and my practice arrows have well over 1000 shots on them. The wraps will sometimes start to come up at the front but I just trim them back 1/8" and keep shooting. Do you have a vane passing through the black part of the WB brissles? Try to offset your fletches to just shoot through the brown part only.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:20 AM
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Do you have a vane passing through the black part of the WB brissles? Try to offset your fletches to just shoot through the brown part only.

This could be the issue of tearing vanes.
What do you say when two or more vanes are torn?
I'm still thinking it could be the issue of tired dried out fletcing glue from a bow stored in a closet.
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Old 09-17-2008, 11:00 AM
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How Should I orient my Arrow Fletching?
The Cock Vane should always be in the up position.

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My fletching wrinkles or tears, is there anything I can do to fix it?
We have tested many different vanes from many different manufacturers and found that some hold up better than others. Here is what we have learned:
White vanes are the softest regardless of the manufacturer or material. This is because it takes a lot of dye to produce the white color and the dye weakens the vane. You will also notice that white vanes get discolored faster than other vanes.
Rubber based vanes are the easiest to glue to an arrow shaft, but are the weakest material to make vanes from. Most arrow manufacturers use rubber vanes because they are so easy to glue on and allow the mass production of arrows. You can tell a rubber vane by its usually textured surface and elastic nature. Rubber vanes have some memory, but when stretched past their elastic limit, they will wrinkle. Rubber vanes also wrinkle in flight due to the acceleration of the shot. You can expect about 150 shots before seeing damage to the vanes.
Urethane based vanes are the toughest vanes and hold up the best over the long term. They are however more difficult to glue to the arrow shaft. The base of the vanes must be cleaned well with a solvent, or simply dish soap. A good flexible glue like Flex-Fletch glue works the best. Urethane based vanes don't oscillate during the shot, and are the most quiet as they fly through the air. You can expect thousands of shots without damage to the vanes.
The best method we've found to affix the vanes to the shaft is as follows: First rub the shaft with a fine abrasive sandpaper or scotch bright. Use a flexible glue on the base of the vanes like the Bohning glue. Then dab a hard glue like super glue or goat-tough glue on the front and back of the vane. Let the arrow sit over night. You can then shoot it thousands of times before having to worry about the fletching again.
We have found the following manufacturers to produce the best fletching and adhesives:

Duravanes
P.O. Box 516
Myrtle Point, OR 97458
800-778-4755

[/align]The Predator vane will work the best. It has good adhesion qualities and is durable and long lasting. They also offer a superior adhesive.
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Bohning Company, Ltd.
7361 N. Seven Mile Rd.
Lake City, MI 49651
231-229-4247

[/align]Blazer Vanes will last indefinitely and bond easily to the arrow shaft using their flexible Bond-Tite cement. These vanes are available from most dealers, or from Cabela's and Bass Pro Shops.
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Flex-Fletch Products
1840 Chandler Ave.
St. Paul, MN 55113
651-426-4882

[/align]Flex-Fletch makes excellent vanes that will last indefinitely. They also produce Flex-Fletch glue, which is a superior glue.
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Arizona Archery Enterprises
2781 Valley View Dr.
Prescott Valley, AZ 86314
928-772-9887

[/align]The AAE Speed Flyte vanes are tough. They are available through Cabela's and Bass Pro Shops.
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