My new arrows are heavier.......
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Spike
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Massachusetts
Ok so here is my problem. I shoot Beman ICS Hunters. 500 7.3 gpi. Well I was at the proshop/range last week and ordered a half dozen arrows like I usually do. Well the guy behind the counter tells me that the can't get the ones I usually shoot in black but he can get them in camo. So i said sure no problem and left it at that.
A few days later I go back to the range to pick up my arrows and when I brought them home that night (I didn't shoot them there) I noticed right away that they were differentfrom my old arrows. Not that they were new but they felt different. So upon a closer inspection I realized that they were indeed 500 arrows but they were 8 gpi instead of 7.3 gpi. Now I shoot a 27.5inch arrow so over the length of the arrow that's 19.25 gpi difference.
I was back at the range tonight and I was talking with the owners mother who also happens to shoot/work there. She has me shoot 3 arrows of the old and new and see what happens. Well needless to say my new arrows were hitting a bitunder an inch low. I told her what was happening and she suggested going with an 85gr field tip. I shoot 100gr on the old ones. Soshe put 85gr field tips on and proceeded to shoot for my average for the upcoming300 league that's hosted there.
This change in my field tips on the new arrows seems to have worked but it kinda leaves a sour taste in my mouth because I have all new broadheads which are 100gr. Logic tells me if I want to use my new arrows for hunting I'll have to switch to 85gr broadheads. Am I just being silly or should I go back and see if I can either get the correct weight arrows or my money back?? I really like shooting there and the level of service has been top-notch up until this lil misshap. Not to mention the fact that he's given me a good deal on a new bow.
Not sure what to do so any advice would help.
thanks for listening to me rant.
Phirst
A few days later I go back to the range to pick up my arrows and when I brought them home that night (I didn't shoot them there) I noticed right away that they were differentfrom my old arrows. Not that they were new but they felt different. So upon a closer inspection I realized that they were indeed 500 arrows but they were 8 gpi instead of 7.3 gpi. Now I shoot a 27.5inch arrow so over the length of the arrow that's 19.25 gpi difference.
I was back at the range tonight and I was talking with the owners mother who also happens to shoot/work there. She has me shoot 3 arrows of the old and new and see what happens. Well needless to say my new arrows were hitting a bitunder an inch low. I told her what was happening and she suggested going with an 85gr field tip. I shoot 100gr on the old ones. Soshe put 85gr field tips on and proceeded to shoot for my average for the upcoming300 league that's hosted there.
This change in my field tips on the new arrows seems to have worked but it kinda leaves a sour taste in my mouth because I have all new broadheads which are 100gr. Logic tells me if I want to use my new arrows for hunting I'll have to switch to 85gr broadheads. Am I just being silly or should I go back and see if I can either get the correct weight arrows or my money back?? I really like shooting there and the level of service has been top-notch up until this lil misshap. Not to mention the fact that he's given me a good deal on a new bow.
Not sure what to do so any advice would help.
thanks for listening to me rant.
Phirst
#2
take them back. dont go even deeper into it trying to set them up right. ive learned that mistake time and time again. i have so many arrows of different weight that i cant use just sitting around.
#3
Well, he should have told you that they would weigh more and he was probably assuming that you knew they would weigh more. This is what happens when people assume things..... it makes anASS out of"U" and ME. 
I have customers come on quite a bit with an arrow that I do not stock or is not made any more. I try to get them as close as possible to what they are shooting but do let them know that there will be a weight difference up front.
To be honest though you are both kind of at fault here. He assumed you knew there was a weight difference but did explain that he did not have your current arrows. You said go ahead with out any hesitation or questions.
If you only had a couple of arrows left of the originals I would just make the small adjustments to your sight and chock it up to a learning experience and buy the camo arrows next time you need some.

I have customers come on quite a bit with an arrow that I do not stock or is not made any more. I try to get them as close as possible to what they are shooting but do let them know that there will be a weight difference up front.
To be honest though you are both kind of at fault here. He assumed you knew there was a weight difference but did explain that he did not have your current arrows. You said go ahead with out any hesitation or questions.
If you only had a couple of arrows left of the originals I would just make the small adjustments to your sight and chock it up to a learning experience and buy the camo arrows next time you need some.
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Spike
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From: Massachusetts
drockw - that's exactly what I was thinking the whole drive home. But by the time I was home I wasn't mad anymore because I sorta knew/felt it was my fault for not asking more questions about the arrows. thanks for your input though.
bigbulls - thank you. you said exactly what was racing around in my head. My only problem now is I have more old arrows (8) than I have new (6). I don't mind calling this a learning experience, which it certaintly has become. However my new bow will be way more faster than the one I currently shoot. It should arriveby Tuesday of next week.I'm hoping that I won't see much of a difference once I've made the switch.
bigbulls - thank you. you said exactly what was racing around in my head. My only problem now is I have more old arrows (8) than I have new (6). I don't mind calling this a learning experience, which it certaintly has become. However my new bow will be way more faster than the one I currently shoot. It should arriveby Tuesday of next week.I'm hoping that I won't see much of a difference once I've made the switch.
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Nontypical Buck
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If we're talking about hunting, and if it were me, I'd just make the slight sight adjustment and shoot the new arrows with the heads you have. 20 grains is no big deal to me, but I keep shots under 30 yds.
I wouldn't buy lighter heads.
I wouldn't buy lighter heads.
#6
For league shooting you want to be dead accurate . You change more than weight with that tip change , foc and spine are effected . For any type of archery most will agree shoot arrows that are as close to identical as you can possibly get them .
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From: Kodiak, AK
I wouldn't drop down to the 85 grain heads. I'd make the adjustments and shoot the new arrows. The lighter heads are going to change your FOC, not a big deal for target points but when you screw a broadhead on the end... that's a whole other story. The change in FOC may make a bigger difference than the change in weight and not in a good way. It seems that every time I find a new shaft that I like they (Easton) quits making it; A/C Kinetics to A/C Superslims now to Axis FMJ. I've always got a few old shafts laying around that are leftovers from a change in the market. Next time it's the old tried and true A/C/C that's been around unchanged for years (but I'll have to add brass inserts to get the weight up).
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I wouldn't drop down to the 85 grain heads. I'd make the adjustments and shoot the new arrows. The lighter heads are going to change your FOC, not a big deal for target points but when you screw a broadhead on the end... that's a whole other story. The change in FOC may make a bigger difference than the change in weight and not in a good way. It seems that every time I find a new shaft that I like they (Easton) quits making it; A/C Kinetics to A/C Superslims now to Axis FMJ. I've always got a few old shafts laying around that are leftovers from a change in the market. Next time it's the old tried and true A/C/C that's been around unchanged for years (but I'll have to add brass inserts to get the weight up).
I wouldn't drop down to the 85 grain heads. I'd make the adjustments and shoot the new arrows. The lighter heads are going to change your FOC, not a big deal for target points but when you screw a broadhead on the end... that's a whole other story. The change in FOC may make a bigger difference than the change in weight and not in a good way. It seems that every time I find a new shaft that I like they (Easton) quits making it; A/C Kinetics to A/C Superslims now to Axis FMJ. I've always got a few old shafts laying around that are leftovers from a change in the market. Next time it's the old tried and true A/C/C that's been around unchanged for years (but I'll have to add brass inserts to get the weight up).


