QAD tune up... *Update**
 

I put new strings/cables on, and now I am having a heck of a time getting this rest timed back in, using the TL-1 launcher arm, nocked high. any ideas?

how do you guys set them up?

j

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Get a draw board or a hook on the cieling or have a buddy watch you and make sure it drops within 2"

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with in 2" of what?

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2" of letdown. In other words, think about pulling back slowly, and before you get to 2" before full draw, your QAD should be standing at full 90 degrees. But will not be at 90% at say 4" of full draw. You move the cable (or football if you are using it) up and down on the downward cable to adjust this timing.

I have played around with letting it drop fast, like 1" of letoff and making it stay to a vertical position for 3-4", and i find 2" to be sufficient.

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got ya! thx

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get a limb driver arrow rest and it will eliminate this problem. i had a QAD and had problems with it to..

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dont like the limbdriver, thats just too much cord goin up to the limb.

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Limbdriver has to be timed too. Not much different from the QAD.

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For the LIFE OF ME, I cannot get clearance now. new string, same ol rest, now no clearance.

any ideas??

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I'm assuming you are using a QAD hunter? If you are using an LD or HD then this is a moot point...

Most of the time with the Hunter models the issue is not the rest being too slow in getting out of the way, its rather that it is bouncing back up and catching the underside of the hen feathers/vanes as they pass over. Thats of course why QAD came up with the LD (Lock-Down) version that has an extra spring to keep this from happening.

Bounce back on the hunter model is a common issue, but it has (in my experience) an easy fix. All I do is move the whole rest forward or backwards in 1/8" increments until the issue is fixed. It actually times the passing of the fletchings to go over when the rest is in mid-bounce rather than at the top of its bounce (sort of like jumping rope I suppose).

There again... this is only applicable if you have a Hunter model.

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Using the LD

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Ah well at least I didn't strike out with the bat on my shoulder....:D

I've never had a QAD not get out of the way in time. Only issue was the bounce back as I mentioned with the hunter.

Only thing I can figure is that your nock point maybe too high/low or your center shot way in or out. Barring that, only a spine issue (and quite an issue it would be) or an improperly indexed arrow come to mind... unless something is broken.

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all started after new string, other than that no changes on bow, I have tried high nock, low nock, even measured where I had it tyed in the first time, I am at a loss.

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Ah... one other thing to check... make sure that when you are at full draw the forks are pulling up PAST 90 deg vertical..... if they are not then she may well not drop. You can rotate the whole aparatus by loosening the set screw. You've probably done this already, seems like you got your stuff together pretty well. I know when stuff like this happens to me, its usually something blatently obvious I've overlooked half a dozen times already.

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past 90 huh. I will try that. if that do it, man loosing sleep....

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I had issues with timing also, just tied it lower on the cable and no more issues. I also removed the top bar so I could shoot blazer vanes.

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When you say fletch clearance, do you mean minor. Or are you saying the fork is not falling? You will be able to tell, because if it doesn't fall, you will usually get some fletch damage. And makes a horrible noise. How do you know its clearance?

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it is minor clearance, the forks are droping, just not quite in time, get contact on the top 1/4" of the forks, shooting blasers, no contact at the top bar. i am using the ol' lipstick trick to see if I have clearance..

i have tried attaching it to the down cable at almost every 1/4" interval, still no change. it is coming full back in the last 1-1.5" of draw, I have nocked high, low, level, no change, i am really close to ebayin this thing and getting somethin different, I have never felt as defeated as this thing has made me feel.

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If that is the case then its not dropping quick enough. The connection to your downward cable should be about the same area as your handle or bottom of the handle. No lower really. Now that you ahve the connection placement for the football (or you may be tying it in), you have to adjust the QAD calbe length to time when it drops. If your QAD cable is too long, your fork won't drop at all and you get damage to your fletch, you want to set your cable length a tad shorter than this. Adjust it so the forks raise to a full 90degreesright at full draw.

Another thing that could be happening is your nocking point for the arrow could be too low. Can you raise your D-loop a tad? Have you shot it thru paper?

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Iam at the office right now, i will try that when I get home. one last night of tryin....;)

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And based on whats happening with it.... seriously try that trick that I mentioned for the Hunter model... heck moving the whole rest forward in the berger hole a 1/4" or so might just do it... worth a shot anyway.

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can't move it any further forward, tried that too..;)

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One question.When you thumb the arrow up in the fork, do you should see the forks not be at 90degree angle pointing straight up. Do you see this? Then at full draw, you should see the rest go to 90degrees stright up. Do you see this? If you do, all you need to do now is make it go 90degrees up closer to full draw.

I guess what I am saying is, its essential that you understand what to look for.

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right, i have and it does with the thumb, as well as at draw. something else has to be going on....

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So I took the QAD Rest off my bow to check it out.

needless to say, it will not drop all the way. just holding it in my hand, goes from 90 degrees, to about 5, not 0. that explains that.

emailed QAD and am sending it in to them.

I put a NAP Quicktune "flipper" on in the mean while, a borrowed one from a friend of mine, looks kinda neat.
thanks guys

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Did it go to 0degrees on the bow? Did it have enough clearance from the shelf to go 0 degrees on the bow? Probably wont in your hand.

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I mounted it to a piece of wood so that I could measure it once I got it off the bow, it didn't drop to 0, there was a time that it did on my bow..... something failed in it, QAD said they would handle it, so no worries.

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Probably a weak spring or something like that.

I'll bet it good to know you aren't really going crazy after all :D Glad you found an answer!

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you have no idea....

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Hate to tell ya, but 5degrees is nothing. If it was 20degrees, that could pose a problem. But if its only 5degrees and you have clearance issues, you need to raise your nocking point until there is not clearance issue, and then at least paper tune. You probably know you cant paper tune with clearance issues. This is also another reason I hate bohning fletch. .5" high fletch is too high and not needed IMO.

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when it gets back from QAD, I will give it another go.

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hmtrfan, I went through the same issues with a QAD. After trying two of them (LD) I was very frustrated. I decided to try a Limbdriver although like you, I wasVERY sceptical about the cord. I LOVE the rest and don"t even notice the cord any more.