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Kanga 06-29-2008 08:20 AM

RE: Changing Arrows
 

You could go with a REALLY heavy point, a 200gr tip would make the spine close,
I totally agree.


but that would make your FOC so far out of whack it'd never work well.
Now this remarkis just pure and utter BS.

The higher the FOC the arrow is going to stabilize quicker giving you better flight, it will also be less prone to wind drift specially in a strong cross wind, give you more momentium which leads to more penetration.

My hunting arrows have a 100gr brass insert and a 125gr head giving me a 24% FOC and the only complaints I have had so far are from the animals I have shot with them. My 3d arrows have a 170gr point and a FOC of 20% the only complaints I get from those are from the others trying to pull them from the targets.

Do some research before you go opening your mouth and spilling BS.

Here I will even give the link so you can read what Dr Ed Ashby has to say and he has spent a life time researching bows and arrows.

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=24

OHbowhntr 06-29-2008 09:58 AM

RE: Changing Arrows
 

ORIGINAL: Kanga


You could go with a REALLY heavy point, a 200gr tip would make the spine close,
I totally agree.


but that would make your FOC so far out of whack it'd never work well.
Now this remarkis just pure and utter BS.

The higher the FOC the arrow is going to stabilize quicker giving you better flight, it will also be less prone to wind drift specially in a strong cross wind, give you more momentium which leads to more penetration.

My hunting arrows have a 100gr brass insert and a 125gr head giving me a 24% FOC and the only complaints I have had so far are from the animals I have shot with them. My 3d arrows have a 170gr point and a FOC of 20% the only complaints I get from those are from the others trying to pull them from the targets.

Do some research before you go opening your mouth and spilling BS.

Here I will even give the link so you can read what Dr Ed Ashby has to say and he has spent a life time researching bows and arrows.

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=24
I may be wrong, but I didn't think you wanted a compound bow to have much over 14% FOC. I've never set anything up this way, though, so I can't say how they'll fly. No reason to get overblown though, I was just trying to help a guy out.

Arthur P 06-29-2008 11:47 AM

RE: Changing Arrows
 
You see an awful lot of things on the internet that don't hold water and there are a lot of myths about going over and above on FOC. Like that 14% limit. Another popular bit of nonsense is that a very high FOC will make your arrows fly nose down. The problem is that going heavy on tip weight adds to total arrow weight, which flies in the face of ultra light arrows and the flat trajectories demanded by the speed cultists. I think Kanga is just reacting to the frustration of knowing how well a high FOC works and constantly having to contradict the myths but then.... He's pretty outspoken anyway and doesn't mind calling a spade a spade.;)

The Rev 06-29-2008 01:07 PM

RE: Changing Arrows
 
Kanga,,, I guess I have to change my set up. That dang ole 21 % FOC sux. Anyone what to buy some 220 grain Muzzy Phantoms? They might still have some blood on them from complete pass thoughs (whitetail and hogs).:D:D:D:D

Who is feeding these people information? Reminds me of the song a my band wrote. - "The blind leading the blind" [8D]

BTW, if you don't increase your FOC you need to be looking at getting some 500 spine arrows.

Kanga 06-29-2008 01:51 PM

RE: Changing Arrows
 

Kanga,,, I guess I have to change my set up. That dang ole 21 % FOC sux.
Bob.

Just get some 100gr brass inserts to screws those suckers into :D


He's pretty outspoken anyway and doesn't mind calling a spade a spade.;)
Art.

How many times to I have to tell ya it's a bloody shovel;):)[8D]:D

Arthur P 06-29-2008 03:18 PM

RE: Changing Arrows
 

How many times to I have to tell ya it's a bloody shovel
'Bout another bleedin' 10 or 12 times. [8D]

pizzitem 06-29-2008 04:12 PM

RE: Changing Arrows
 
Where can I get a 200 grain field point or a 100 grain brass insert?

Also, How would I take out and replace the inserts that are already in the arrows?

Thanks
Jeff

The Rev 06-29-2008 04:42 PM

RE: Changing Arrows
 

ORIGINAL: pizzitem

Where can I get a 200 grain field point or a 100 grain brass insert?

Also, How would I take out and replace the inserts that are already in the arrows?

Thanks
Jeff
You can ask you local bow shop to order you some of these, Phantom Muzzys 200 or 220 grain with the bleeder vanes...

You can order 100 grain brass inserts from www.3riversarchery.com





Kanga 06-29-2008 04:45 PM

RE: Changing Arrows
 
Your local bow shop should be able to order you some 200gr field points as well or you can get them from 3rivers at the link Bob suplied;)

Ed McDonald 06-29-2008 05:36 PM

RE: Changing Arrows
 
Mark a nmber on one of the vanes of each Gold Tip . See if the same two fliers are the same or not . Just an added thought .


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