Problems Tuning QAD Rest
 

Is anyone having trouble paper tuning the QAD Ultra rest? I switched from a WB and was tuned perfect on paper. I cannot seem to get the QAD to paper tune correctly. I have the rest moved in as far right close to the riser as functionally possible, but am still getting an off tear. It is noticibly worse w/ blazers than w/ feathers. It is acceptable w/ feathers, but still not perfect.
Does anyone have any recomendations, thoughts, or experiences?

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I hate to say this, but I just sold a QAD ultra because of this. I have the QAD on my commander with no problems whatsoever. I tried putting on my single cam liberty and to get a good tear and bare shaft out to 30 yards, I had to set so close to the riser, I was 1/4" off centershot. I put the ripcord on it and no problems. I noticed when I timed it so it stayed up longer, it would behave better but not perfect.

I would say your facing two problems. With the blazers, you cannot get close enough to the riser to get a good tear before you get fletch interferrence where i was able to.

I have noticed "our" problem ona few single cams. I have to wonder if its not a problem with the string not perfectly vertical from cam to idler wheel with single cam. Because they work perfect on binary cams where the string is perfectly verticle compared to the bow.

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Very interesting...

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I couldn't get the ultra rest to tune on my gardian. I put a limbdriver on and my problems went away.some guys swear by them and some guys swear at them! My problem was mostly fetching contact.




Mark

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I am having the same problem with my old XI that my father now shoots. He has the rest so far over that he would have the shoot a deer with a field point.... I like the QAD but I have put the rip cord on my new truth 2 with perfect tuning.
I am not sure y it will not tune but will need to fix it quickly, 3-D time is here.

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No problems on the X Force with the QAD Hunter rest.

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I have seen this in about 1 or 2 that I sell and setup. They can be a breeze or they can be a PITA! If you are getting much contact it will soon be fraying your feathers.

Dan

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It is strange... i am fraying feathers due to contact... but I am actually shooting very well. Should I stick w/ it even though the center shot is so far off or just get rid of it altogether?
Thy the ripcord or go back to the WB?

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For full containment, the WB, and the New Hostage Pro rest are both great choices. For a Fall away you really can't beat a Limb Driver.

Dan

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You know TFOX told me, "its not right", and yes, I got mine to work 1/4" to the riser past center. But it shouldn't be that way. So I took it off. Sold on Ebay.

But it has worked find for my bowtech commander and a guardian.

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I think I'll go back to my WB for now.. At lease I had a perfect paper tear w/ that.

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It's a fletch contact issue. The Blazers are worse becasue they aren't giving when they hit. Get the contact issue resolved and you'll be fine.

- Move the rest all the way forward in the mount holes.
- Shoot cock fletch up.
- Put a bit more slack in the control cable (as little tension as possible to get the rest straight up at full draw).
- As a last resort: Use the taller rest prong (and adjust your nock point and peep accordingly).

I'm shooting full helical Blazers in my Hoyt single cam with this rest without any problems.

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Wasn't you who also had issues and had one for sale? I thought sure it was you.

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I had issues with it on my Old Glory (it didn't like having any tension on the down cable) but it works fine on my old Hoyt UltraTec single cam... don't recall if I was going to sell it or not but could be.

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I like you also had awesome performance on two bows, it was just this one. It seems its hit or miss.

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i was gonna put the qad pro on my x force 6 a few people i talked to liked em but half that tried them didn't really care for them and that really did not seem like good odds to me so i put the vapor trail limbdriver on my xf6 it only took a few arrows to tune with new site and it was shooting the same spot on the target the limbdriver seems to be a great rest............Ted

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Ted, I agree, and that's why I say the Limb Driver is very consistent. Some of the others can be hit or miss.

Dan

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Dan
a buddy of mine has a qad on a tribute and i asked him how he liked it and he told me he was having a problem with fletching contact thats why i went to the limbdriver because it was actually someone i knew personally that was having them problems plus the other reports,this limbdriver is sure different than most but works very well..........Ted

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Do you have the LockDown model or the standard?
Iset minelike Kodiak did on the Blace Ice and Switchback I had. Not real tight on the cable at full draw and
cock vane was up, but "slightly inward" bc the standard model had bounce back off the shelf and with blazers that was the best I could get. it was sure a hit and miss on clearence.
When I switched to the Lock Down models I had no problem on any bow it was on.

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I spent the last two daystrying to get my QAD to shoot well with bare shafts. Tried everything. I took off the upper bar because I was getting contact as well. I finally got it to shoot well afterI kept messing withit.I started off with feathers then went to balzers and it now shoots great especially with broadheads. Getting 100 grain Muzzy's shooting same place as field points. Even getting 125 grain Muzzy's shooting very well. I will add that I do not think I will ever buy another one. More trouble than it is worth for me.

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I don't know about the other models. I have only setup 3 and all were LD models.

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Is it shooting well with centershot set properly? If not,ditch it and get another rest.You will never reach your full potential with a rest setup inside or outside of centershot.

Think about it,you are having to aim away and across your body to hit center of the target.Look at how many angles that creates,angles are hard to repeat.

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Yes I believe center shot was finally reached. I say this because I shot at 10 yards and sighted in. Then walked back to 30 yards and using the same pin, I shot groups that was right on centered of the 10 yard group except below of course. Then I went to the broadhead test and was suprised they hit the same place. I may be wrong with my thinking though, if I am please correct me on this. I surely want it to be right.

ED

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I was so far off center that the rest was almost touching the riser. It was shooting good, but that is not right. I put the WB back on for now... pefect papertune w/ blazers again now right on center... I'm gonna stick with the wb for now... I put my QAD on Ebay.

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I believe I am going to waituntil I can get some more input on if I am doing right with this rest and center shot. If I am not, or cannot, achieve true center shot, I will probably take the advise of MeanV and some others and try a Limb Driver. This is the second time I have installed this rest and I have had the same results. It is shooting great groups but if it is not right, I don't want it.

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question:

i know a lot of guys worry with the QAD about speed and if there arrow is fast that it will make contact...........but what if you have a very heavy arrow....is it possible that the weight will cause the arrown to "drop" a little causing fletching contact???

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I wondered the same thing. If the heavier arrow was able to drop, then the point of impact would drop as well. Didn't seem to be the case. A 505 grain arrow had about the same point of impact at 20 yards as a 403 grain arrow. I would have expected the heavier arrow to shoot a little low anyway, due to less speed; but apparently the slightly larger diameter of the heavy arrow set it up a little higher on the rest.

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huh...i wonder if the affects cannot be seen until you shot at further distances?.... a heavier arrow would have to drop eventually no matter how much velocity you are pushing out...no way around that.....

another question:

if i am shooting an arrow at 12.4 gr with 100 broadhead and getting a 7 pin spread on my sight to go from 20 (all the way to the top) to 72 yards for the buttom pin (all the way to the buttom of the sight).......and go to a arrow around 8.7 gr with 100 broadhead do you think i can get my pin spread toget 20 to 80???.....

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Sounds like centershot is good,do a little group tuning to finalize things and shoot and have some fun.

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Okay thaks TFOX, I appreciate the help. I will shoot it some more and do the group tuning and give it a good evaluation.

ED

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The drop is a little more at 30 yards with the heavy arrow; and it goes down hill from there. At 70 yards, the heavy arrow impacts a couple of feet lower. I would speculate there is a good chance you can squeeze in another 10 yardsby going to that much lighter of an arrow. With 400 grain arrows, there is 22" difference in actual drop going from 60 yards to 70 yards out my bow. The gap between 70 and 80 is probably aroun 30". I'll bet your bow will have right around 30" less drop at 70 yards than it has with the heavy arrows.

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I HAVE A QAD HD ON MY BOW. I'M GETTING 284FPS OUT OF IT. NO PROBLEMS YET. I TUNED IT VERY EASY. MY BUDDY HAS ONE ON HIS XF 6 AND GETTING 325FPS AND NO PROBLEMS YET. TUNED EASY ALSO. NOW MY NEW BOW IS HERE (GTO)AND I HAVE PUT A QAD HD ON IT, HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO TUNE IT YET. BUT I REPORT HOW IT DOES AFTER THE WEEKEND. BY-THE-WAY THE FIRST TWO PAPER TUNED VERY EASY. ONE THING I NOTICED AT MY PROSHOP IS THAT GUYS WERE SHOOTING UNDER SPINED ARROWS CAUSING MOST OF THERE PAPER TUNING PROBLEMS, ONCE WE GOT THEM TO TRY A STIFFER ARROW...MOST PROBLEMS WERE SOLVED. I PERSONALLY LOVE THE QAD HD. NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE CHEAP MODEL, BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT IT DOES HAVE BOUNCE BACK ISSUES LIKE A FEW OTHER DROP AWAY RESTS THAT DON'T LOCK DOWN.

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thanks roskoe...i am thinking that the drop will be less and am praying that i can finally get the pins seperation 20-80 instead of 20-72....