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when you are drawing your string back to anchor point with a loop and release where is the correct anchor point i think my draw is to short the shop said he would leave it alone,can anyone help me with this...........Ted

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to my understanding anchor points are anchor points, one should be the tip of the nose, a kisser for the corner of the mouth then one of your knuckles some where just behind where yer jaw curves toward yer ear. depending on how you shoot these are the most used anchor points... i have a glove type release and i put the thumb knuckle closest to my palm in the joint that is created by my jaw and bone that is immediately behind my ear, this also puts a knuckle right at the corner of my eye for a 4th anchor point.
hope this helps.
but Ted i know these guys they are gonna want to see pictures which will help everyone help you better.

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ok Al,i will have to try to get a picture and down load it,this is all different to me i had to go from R/H to Left because of going blind in right eye,i can get another half in. out this without changing the mod but i need press for an x force,i have an omni bech press but it won't work on the xf,i shoot a glove release also i'm shooting a winn free flight rope release........Ted

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form has been modified since but you can see the first 2 anchors the nose and the kisser

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IMO, people have too long of a draw because they can hold it easier by locking thier arm back. IMO, AL draw is way too long. If you have to put your kisser more than one inch higher than top of you nocking point, then its too long. Also, I like to have another anchor. And thats my release hand under my jaw. With these short bows, people feel the need to have the string touch thier nose, but IMO, this is not neccessary.

If you set your anchor so your release hand is not all the way back under your ear and under the jaw, this give you room for followthru on your shot. In other words, pulling thru the shot, not gripping your release, bow shoulder down.

Classic too long draws usually have the archer leaning back.

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This is an old picturefrom June or July of last year. However, it illustrates what big is talking about as far as anchor point and draw length is concerned.

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Looks real good dave.

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You got it Dave!

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Thanks guys. WhenI bought that bow my old bow had a 28.5" DL and when I told the guy at the shop he just looked at me and said, "You are 30" or 30.5." I was also using one of the Truball releases with the long jaw. Had me all messed up. I took me most of last year to fix what 1 bad fitted bow and release had done to me.

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Ok, maybe it's just how I got started and what I'm used to, but...... If you use a peep and the same anchor with your hand, why do you need the kisser button? I shoot with a few guys that "have" to have that kisser and I don't get it. They have been shooting league for years and I outshoot them easily with a lot less practice. How many of you guys actually use the kisser button?

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Depends on the release you're using. I got away from wrist strap releases because I could never get a consistant anchor without a kisser button and I hate kisser buttons. I went to a Carter because with the thumb trigger style you can get a solid anchor on the back of the jawbone and do away with the need for a kisser (plus it's just a way higher quality sear mechanism).

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As you can see from my picture I do not use a kisser. Once I get the anchor point down on my jaw(with thumb), nose, and the peep centered I'm good to go. The kisser adds another anchor point for people that want to use it. The problemI would have with a kisserisI wear a face mask. And really never saw the use for one personally.

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Kind of the way I looked at it I guess, i see no point in the kisser

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well now that yall are talking about it i have to ask..is my anchor point messed up?...i feel very comfortable using my arrow..yes my arrow..as my "kisser button"..in other words when i draw back i have the arrow pushing against my lips. do yall see anything wrong with this?

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Here are the most common anchors.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxOwEPsvHVQ

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I'd worry about a nock breaking or something like that and cutting you.
That being said. I'f anchor consistantly then do not worry about changing. If that's you in your sig?The string ison the nose as another anchor point so don't worry about changing if it's comfortable with you. The problem arises when people have no anchor points or at least none on their face. This has the draw hand moving all over the place trying to get comfortable.


I think you are addicted to youtube TFOX.

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Al, just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, but your DL looks a little long. Dave is right on, this is what it should look like.

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no guys keep it coming,this bow i got at a yard sale, my bro and i measured me and the dl of the bow.
supposedly i am a 29.5 and the bow is 29.5, it "feels" comfortable to me but i do look stretched out and my hand is pretty far back....I am getting a new bow this summer, I'll get pro shop measured and some pointers while i'm there...for now i gotta run what i brung and 40 bucks for the bow i couldnt pass up.

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A good pro shop guy is worth his weight in gold. As I stated earlier.I had some things all messed-up when I went to look at bows last year. The guy straightened out a few things in 30 minutes and it didn'tcharge me a dime for his time. He didn't bull crap me either. I actually quit shooting for a few years due to the frustration with my previous bow.

I was smart enough to buy my bow from him though and still would have even if his prices would have beenhigher then whatI paid for all the stuff I bought.

Do you think ifAl rotated his left elbow out and put the bow on the meat of his left thumb that it would correct the DL issue somewhat? I've noticed by changing where the bow is in my hands it does affect my DL.

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dave,
I had posted this pic on here before and that was one of the main concerns everyone else had with my form and that bug has been worked out.it was also causing my arrows to drift from upper right to lower left.
I am going to post a video as soon as i can get someone to do the shooting.

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I am still very skeptical about "Perfect" or "Proper" draw length??

In my opinion, shoot what feels the most comfortable too you? I would think in my mind that if you shoot comfortable you will shoot better? I know the pros will jump down my throat for saying this, but it is just my OPINION!

If you can shoot comfortablyand learn a distinct anchorI would say that is proper form.It can be something as small as where your thumb knuckle is everytime, or where your pointer finger touches your face??? Atleast for me anyhow??

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That is what pros do BUT they work within a certain set of parameters.;)

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Ok so I am on the right path then?

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heres a pik of me...
i know what yall are thinkin."this kids form is all messed up"

well it probly is thats why i put it on here,,

howeveri feel very comfortable with my draw and form...

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Yes.


We must also remember that pros practice ALOT and anything that is practiced alot can become comfortable and repeatable TO A POINT.

The problem is that most of us are not pros and don't have that kind of time to dedicate to it.There are parameters that the pro and average guy alike can use to be their best.


Standing up straight and getting proper bone to bone contact are just a couple.You won't find many pros if any leaning back when shooting on level groud(unless we are talking long distance shooting of 90 meters or the like)AND they are usuallydistance specific with their setup.

Having great anchor points of reference is another but not all use the same ones.

Draw lengths will vary from shooter to shooter,even if they were to have the exact same body measurements.

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As far as anchor point and DL you are good to go.

I'll give you the same advice that I was given when my form looked similar to yours. You might want to rotate your left elbow out go with a more neutral grip. (After work i cna post a pic ofthe grip I'm refering to.) Your thumb should be along the riser so you can not wrap your thumb around the front. I used to grip my bow the same way and many people still do. I shot well enough that way. however, it can cause you to torque the bow once in a while. Try not to lean back in your stance. But it's definitely not "not all messed up".

What type of release is that? You might want to look into one with a shorter jaw and barrel so that your hand is further forward. I've found that the right release makes a world of difference.

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Stand up straight,use a mirror for help with this because will feel like you are leaning forward at first.


I really don't like to tell somone to rotate their elbow out because that really isn't correct,you should rotate the wrist and forearm without rotating the elbow.If the elbow points out,that creates angles and tension that is hard to repeat.AND,your grip could still be wrong.


Your short bow just makes it harder to get solid anchors with.You are doing a pretty good job with the anchors though,just has you bending into the string.Which I am not a fan of.

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THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS..I WILL TRY TO IMPROVE ON MY FORM AS BEST AS I CAN...THANX..

THE RELEASE I HAVE IS A CHEAPO FOR LIKE 15 BUCKS HOWEVER I AM VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IT JUST BECAUSE IT ISNT "HAIR TRIGGER"