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countryboy17 03-03-2008 07:13 PM
limbs problem/ tiller
 
i was going to adjust my tiller on my bow and i relized that the limbs were not seated in the socket. i guess the bow shop backed out the bots to lower the poundage and they vibrated out of the socket. so was should i do now i can pull back more now that i have goten stronger so should i just take it to the shop and have it adjusted and increse my draw weight? thanks for any help.

nodog 03-04-2008 06:23 AM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
I think you should experiment and see for yourself. There is a limit to how far you can turn them out so find that out first. To start out I'd crank them all the way down and turn them back equally 2 turns, play around from there.

Think of the bow in a box shape. You can square a box up by pulling on opposit corners, cranking the bolts on a bow is like that. If it's square when you pull the string back the nock will travel straight through, if not it will travel at an angle causing you to compensate in some way to make up for it. Most bows, not allthese days are very square so the bolts should be turned an equal distance from thightened, out.If not something is off, most likely the rest/nock alignment. Some bows require the bolts to be different.

Before you start record where they are now so you can go back if you get into trouble. Always remember where you are and have gone. Take pictures, record. or and write things down. You'll be just fine.

Arthur P 03-04-2008 07:09 AM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
I think you should experiment and see for yourself. There is a limit to how far you can turn them out so find that out first.
Be careful about how you find that out. On most bows, if you back the limb bolts out too much the limbs are still under a good bit of tension when the bolt clears the hole. Won't hurt you, very much anyway, when the limb jumps off the riser, but it will cause you to soil yourself and you have to have a bow press to put the bow back together. Call the customer service dept at the manufacturer and ask how much the bolts can be backed out. I suspect they're already too far if the limbs have come unseated.

To be honest, I'd recommend you take the bow to the shop and let the tech reseat the limbs in the pockets.Closely watchevery thing he does. Once you've seen it done, you have a good idea of how to take care of the problem yourself if you ever run across the same situation again.

nodog 03-04-2008 04:43 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: Arthur P


To be honest, I'd recommend you take the bow to the shop and let the tech reseat the limbs in the pockets.Closely watchevery thing he does. Once you've seen it done, you have a good idea of how to take care of the problem yourself if you ever run across the same situation again.
Do you really think people these days can't turn a bolt themselves. :D

I'd believe ya if you said yes, pretty sad. lol

KodiakArcher 03-04-2008 05:34 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: nodog

ORIGINAL: Arthur P


To be honest, I'd recommend you take the bow to the shop and let the tech reseat the limbs in the pockets.Closely watchevery thing he does. Once you've seen it done, you have a good idea of how to take care of the problem yourself if you ever run across the same situation again.
Do you really think people these days can't turn a bolt themselves. :D

I'd believe ya if you said yes, pretty sad. lol
There may be more to seating the limb than just turning the bolts down all the way. There are buffers and shims in some of the limb pockets, especially those that allow the limb to float within the pocket as I suspect these are. I saw some HCA bows years ago that this happened to a lot. It took fully unloading the limb to get it back in place without damaging the finish.

nodog 03-04-2008 06:18 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher

ORIGINAL: nodog

ORIGINAL: Arthur P


To be honest, I'd recommend you take the bow to the shop and let the tech reseat the limbs in the pockets.Closely watchevery thing he does. Once you've seen it done, you have a good idea of how to take care of the problem yourself if you ever run across the same situation again.
Do you really think people these days can't turn a bolt themselves. :D

I'd believe ya if you said yes, pretty sad. lol
There may be more to seating the limb than just turning the bolts down all the way. There are buffers and shims in some of the limb pockets, especially those that allow the limb to float within the pocket as I suspect these are. I saw some HCA bows years ago that this happened to a lot. It took fully unloading the limb to get it back in place without damaging the finish.
Hmmm good to know.

countryboy17 03-05-2008 07:46 AM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ya i have a high country bow so i will take it to the shop and they can make the right adjustments. thanks for all your help!

countryboy17 03-05-2008 08:44 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
i took it to Bass Pro and they siad that the bow shop that set up my bow was way off and they did a horiable job. Bass Pro set my limbs right and fixed it all the little problems. there are great and it was for free!

nodog 03-06-2008 03:56 AM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: countryboy17

i took it to Bass Pro and they siad that the bow shop that set up my bow was way off and they did a horiable job. Bass Pro set my limbs right and fixed it all the little problems. there are great and it was for free!
That's great, but you now see why doing it yourself has it's advantages.

I still think you should have did it yourself. Free's good, you did spend a lot of time with a poorly set up bow and the timeto take care of it. Takes time to get out of a bow all it has to give, I doubt a great deal of people will put that into someone elses rig. Takes me weeks.

I fix most everything I own. Wifes van had problems, went to the dealer to get the parts not knowing what I needed the big cheese tech there said I needed something rediculous, I didn't. The ignition switch (the whole assembly) was bad, he said I needed a new column. All these years of fixing things told me he was full of it the second he said it. A friends son inlaw is a parts guy at another dealer ship. Just by chance I'd called the wrong number when trying to reach the dealer and found him there. He printed out the parts break down and I had the right part the next day. Funny how things work out.

Arthur P 03-06-2008 07:19 AM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
While I agree that it's best to know how to fix and maintain your own bow, you can often make a problem worse if you don't know what you're doing.Compounds ain't rocket science but they do take some knowledge.So, you got your bow fixed and you've seen how it was done. Now you've got a good start on your maintenance education. :)

I very rarely let anyone work on my bows. It only happens when the work needs a full size press, which I don't have. My problem is, the only shops I used to trust are out of business now. [&o]

The Rev 03-06-2008 12:01 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: Arthur P

While I agree that it's best to know how to fix and maintain your own bow, you can often make a problem worse if you don't know what you're doing.Compounds ain't rocket science but they do take some knowledge.So, you got your bow fixed and you've seen how it was done. Now you've got a good start on your maintenance education. :)

I very rarely let anyone work on my bows. It only happens when the work needs a full size press, which I don't have. My problem is, the only shops I used to trust are out of business now. [&o]

I agree.
While working on my transmission one day my Dad said, "There are two kinds of people that work on transmissions, experts and idiots, which one are you?" There's is a lot of wisdom in what Art said.

Roskoe 03-06-2008 12:15 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
Same logic applies to gunsmiths.

nodog 03-06-2008 03:39 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: The Rev

ORIGINAL: Arthur P

While I agree that it's best to know how to fix and maintain your own bow, you can often make a problem worse if you don't know what you're doing.Compounds ain't rocket science but they do take some knowledge.So, you got your bow fixed and you've seen how it was done. Now you've got a good start on your maintenance education. :)

I very rarely let anyone work on my bows. It only happens when the work needs a full size press, which I don't have. My problem is, the only shops I used to trust are out of business now. [&o]

I agree.
While working on my transmission one day my Dad said, "There are two kinds of people that work on transmissions, experts and idiots, which one are you?" There's is a lot of wisdom in what Art said.
Far be it from me to speak poorly of your father, but idiots got a start some where. I've worked on them, I don't think I'd rebuild one but I have pulled them and replaced them. The more you do the more you know. I would take apart one that was busted and in need of replacing on the off chance that I might be able to fix it. I do know that a typical one has about 2 thousand parts. I've filed that away. Heard it over 25 years ago from a guy who worked on catapiler transmissions. He was what your dad would have called an expert. Bows are no transmissions. He also built his own plane and crashed it.

So the guy would work on his bow and it wouldn't turn out right, he would learn something valuable. My first bike as a kid didn't make it long, I took it apart and it never went back together, I'd taken apart things that weren't supposed to be taken apart like the bearings out of theircasing. That experience has helped me many times.

Nothing wrong with Arthur's advise and I'm sure it's experience talking, pretty good if the guy was sucking it up like a sponge.

The Rev 03-06-2008 05:30 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: nodog

ORIGINAL: The Rev

ORIGINAL: Arthur P

While I agree that it's best to know how to fix and maintain your own bow, you can often make a problem worse if you don't know what you're doing.Compounds ain't rocket science but they do take some knowledge.So, you got your bow fixed and you've seen how it was done. Now you've got a good start on your maintenance education. :)

I very rarely let anyone work on my bows. It only happens when the work needs a full size press, which I don't have. My problem is, the only shops I used to trust are out of business now. [&o]

I agree.
While working on my transmission one day my Dad said, "There are two kinds of people that work on transmissions, experts and idiots, which one are you?" There's is a lot of wisdom in what Art said.
Far be it from me to speak poorly of your father, but idiots got a start some where. I've worked on them, I don't think I'd rebuild one but I have pulled them and replaced them. The more you do the more you know. I would take apart one that was busted and in need of replacing on the off chance that I might be able to fix it. I do know that a typical one has about 2 thousand parts. I've filed that away. Heard it over 25 years ago from a guy who worked on catapiler transmissions. He was what your dad would have called an expert. Bows are no transmissions. He also built his own plane and crashed it.

So the guy would work on his bow and it wouldn't turn out right, he would learn something valuable. My first bike as a kid didn't make it long, I took it apart and it never went back together, I'd taken apart things that weren't supposed to be taken apart like the bearings out of theircasing. That experience has helped me many times.

Nothing wrong with Arthur's advise and I'm sure it's experience talking, pretty good if the guy was sucking it up like a sponge.
I can understand that you have to start somewhere... As far as my dad he never did much. He won the gold medal in the Olympics for shooting , was the best rifle shooter in the world for most of the 60's.Tested the weapon that Oswald shot Kennedy with, he hand two masters degrees, taught physics and trigonometry.. So when he said something, I listened. Pulling a transmission would qualify a person to be a transmission mechanic. I was actually trying to rebuild an automatic transmission and had parts all over the place. BTW, I did learn to work on cars that year I started drag racing for money, without my dad's help.:D

nodog 03-07-2008 05:47 AM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
WOW and that's a big WOW. :DI don't blame you for listening,

"parts all over the place" LOL :DDid you get it back together?

The Rev 03-07-2008 06:20 AM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: nodog

WOW and that's a big WOW. :DI don't blame you for listening,

"parts all over the place" LOL :DDid you get it back together?
Yes, still ran like crap.:D

Arthur P 03-07-2008 11:11 AM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
I was actually trying to rebuild an automatic transmission and had parts all over the place.
[:-]I didn' realize PSE ever made cars. (Parts Scattered Everywhere)[8D]

nodog 03-07-2008 08:30 PM
RE: limbs problem/ tiller
 
ORIGINAL: The Rev

ORIGINAL: nodog

WOW and that's a big WOW. :DI don't blame you for listening,

"parts all over the place" LOL :DDid you get it back together?
Yes, still ran like crap.:D
:Dstill impressive.


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