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My General is too slow.
I need a faster bow! I've been shooting 3D lately and am just terrible at judging distance. My general, shooting a 358gr arrow at 70lbs is just not fast enough and the arrow has too much drop between 20-30yds. It's about a 6 inch difference.
Any recommendations? PSE X-Force, 82nd or 101st airborne? I hear darton has a fast bow too. |
RE: My General is too slow.
something doesn't add up, my old PSE Mojave at 230fps has that much drop between 20 and 30, I would suspect yours to be much less.
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RE: My General is too slow.
my buddy shoots a 70lb hoyt and shoots the same draw length and arrow....he has about a 3" drop between 20-30yds. My arrow speed, based on a local shops chrono, is 284fps.
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RE: My General is too slow.
You really shouldn't be having that much drop between 20-30. IDK
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RE: My General is too slow.
My recommendation is to keep the General and learn to judge yardage better. The Big Dogs on the 3D course are good at it. That's why they win. A faster bow might put you in the 8 ring at 30 yards if you shoot it for 20, but the Big Dogs are pounding 12's while you're schlepping along with 8's. You'll still be getting your butt kicked, and nigh on a thousand dollars poorer.
Not to mention you're already shooting as fast as ASA allows. |
RE: My General is too slow.
I knew I would get the "learn to judge yardage better comment"......and I agree. Only if it were that easy. It was not a problem when I had the Guardian, it was faster, had less drop, so this was less of an issue. My 20-30yd pins on my guardian were so close it was difficult to see thru them at time.....gap between the pins on my general (exact same cobra sight) are 3X further apart.
With the guardian, I could put my pin at the top of the 10 ring at 25+ and at the top of the 11 ring inside of 25yds and tear it up. I'm averaging about 15-20pts less this year than last year. |
RE: My General is too slow.
There is more too it then because I can garuantee that between 285 and 310, your pin gap will never change so how much faster could your Guardian have been. I suspect more of a tuning issue or other factor.
The difference you missing in score compared from last year cannot be blamed on the bow, there is more to it. AT 284, you shouldn't be seeing a 6" drop on 10 yards and honestly, are you off 10 yards on yardage estimations? |
RE: My General is too slow.
No, my estimation is never off by +/- 10yds.....maybe up to 5yds. 25-30....I have no idea.... 30-35....same thing. At an indoor range, if I use my 20yd pin at 30yds on the 5 spot target, I will score a 0. It drops that far.
My arrows fly like darts and at a 20yd 5-spot I consistantly shoot in the low 290's..... |
RE: My General is too slow.
Step up and get a scope or a single pin slider that will improve your yardage judgement a lot cause you have to dial it in for the exact yardage.
But Rob is right there is more to it no way should you be getting that much of a drop in 10 yards. Could be bow tune, arrow tune or shooter form flaws. It's hard to say without seeing you shoot. |
RE: My General is too slow.
Primitive Weapon,
I have a BowTech Tribute Right Hand, 29"-draw with 70-pound limbs. We could trade bows or I am willing to buy your BowTech General out right. You have already talked yourself out of the General.When you decided to buy a new bow, PM me. |
RE: My General is too slow.
I Have The General with a 29" draw set at 70#, and im not having that problem! Maybe 2" at the most if that from 20 to 30. My bow is shooting 291 fps, I have a custom string on it and the G5 peep, picked up a little speed with each cause i have the smooth mod setup. Look through everything close and make sure nothin is wrong, like everyone else said something dont sound right
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RE: My General is too slow.
WOW I would say you have a problem somewhere! I am shooting my General at 62# 300Gr arrow and I might see 2" drop at 30 yards from 20 yards max. Im shooting 300FPS.One thing I did notice today with the light arrows shooting outside the further away from the target I got if the wind blew so did my arrow and it would be way off!
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RE: My General is too slow.
You arehave underlying problems here if you are seeing 6" drop between 20 and 30 yards and you are shooting 284fps. You really think 12 to 15fps will make 3" difference?
Dan |
RE: My General is too slow.
I also have the General, and I just measured it, 1.35-1.5 inchs different, something else is wrong. 28" Draw at 66#.
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RE: My General is too slow.
I traded the Generaltonight forthe 82nd airborne. I shot the general thru a chrono tonight at 29", 70lbs, 252 gr arrow at 280fps. Shot the same arrow thru the 82nd at 29" and 65lbs at 311fps. Obviously, that's not comparing apples to apples but sometimes I like a good orange! :D
It's not tuned yet, will work on that tomorrow. I'm anxious to see what the difference it between 20-30yds now. The small brace height will take some getting use to. Nearly a 2" difference from the General. |
RE: My General is too slow.
ORIGINAL: Primitive Weapon I traded the Generaltonight forthe 82nd airborne. I shot the general thru a chrono tonight at 29", 70lbs, 252 gr arrow at 280fps. Shot the same arrow thru the 82nd at 29" and 65lbs at 311fps. Obviously, that's not comparing apples to apples but sometimes I like a good orange! :D It's not tuned yet, will work on that tomorrow. I'm anxious to see what the difference it between 20-30yds now. The small brace height will take some getting use to. Nearly a 2" difference from the General. |
RE: My General is too slow.
[:'(]speed [&:]
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RE: My General is too slow.
Looks like your 82nd is slow too.. I think your chrono is off.
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RE: My General is too slow.
ORIGINAL: Primitive Weapon 29", 70lbs, 252 gr arrow at 280fps. Shot the same arrow thru the 82nd at 29" and 65lbs at 311fps. |
RE: My General is too slow.
ORIGINAL: BruceW63 ORIGINAL: Primitive Weapon 29", 70lbs, 252 gr arrow at 280fps. Shot the same arrow thru the 82nd at 29" and 65lbs at 311fps. Dan |
RE: My General is too slow.
Different strokes I guess. I shot my first round with my General on Saturday, first time on a 3D range since last August; shot my average from last year when I was shooting an Ally. The more I shoot this bow, the happier I am with it.
Good luck with your 82nd. |
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