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This year, getting back into 3D and off to a great but semi rough start I'm wondering about verifying lens'.

I'm realizing my eyes are not what they once were. I have fixed pins, Viper Predator Pro with small pins. They size are not the issue however, they are semi blurring. My 40 yard pin is a red .010 pin but it halos and elongates. It's too bright and I find myself using a wrap and hood to dull them down. I still need to clear them up and I understand a verifying lens will do this.

I'm very familiar with clearifying lenses as I use them with my scopes.

Does a verifying lens shrink the targets or is everything normal except the lens will clear up the pins?

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I use the verifier lens and it works great . It clears up the pins and still leaves the target clear. Without them I would have had to switch to a scope by now because I couldnt see my pins anymore. Also the target stays the same size.

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Rob,

I guess you are familar with Specialty peeps. Does your Clarifier fit in one of these? Reason I ask is that the Verifier lens does, too.

Just like Clarifiers there are several different diopters. You need to try the dfferent ones to see which would be best for you. They work pretty well, but if you get one too strong then it clears the pins but blurs the target. There's really a fine line between no lens and too much diopter.

The largest lens size is 1/8" for the Superball peep.3/16 lens in the Super Hunter model. Probably one of the best places to find specs on them is Specialty Archery or www.lancasterarchery.com.

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I could never use a clarifier because it would clear the target through a scope but would blurr the pin.

You might try to cover the fiber to dull them down a bit.


I just bought the sword with .010 green and orange pins and the green really gathers light and wants to halo a bit but the orange is perfect.

I used to use green exclusively and I believe the new pins are just brighter than what they used to make.

RED,was always completely out of the equation for targets.

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Thank you, this is what I'm looking for.

Yes, I have the Super Peep on my Ally. I also have a Clarifier as I am aware the Verifier lens fits it. I won't need to buy the peep, just the apature lens.

This is good information,

Do you think I should just start with the lightest/least one? I'm not that bad but am realizing I may need a little help.

Agreed, I was just looking through their catalog and saw them which prompted a thread. I look for more information from you if you'd be so kind. Thank you.

I had no issue with a clarifier, with my Boss Scope, (fiber in the lens) it was perfect.

Yup, you must have missed that part of my post, I'm doing this now with a wrap and a hood.

I agree totally. For hunting, they are pefect, for target, need even smaller, clearer pins/target/sight window.

And I agree, red is out. I'm going to change the fiber.

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Rob, it would be best if you have a shop that carries Verifiers so you could try them. Probably, if you're just getting to the point of using bifocals you could use the #5 (purple), but a test run is best. When I got mine back a few years ago they didn't have the #5. I tried a #7 and it cleared the pins, but the target got real fuzzy at 20 yards (indoor at Lancaster). I tried the #6 and it was much better, but I still don't use it for hunting because of the lack of light passing through the lens (lenses do that). Now that they have a #5 I might give that a try one of these days as I think it would be the better choice for me---for the record my bifocals are a +2.00.

Taking note that the Hunter Peep System is plastic and not aluminum. It has a tube aligner, which I deplore so I just cut off the nipple the tube attaches to. It's a pretty good size peep and there are Verifiers made to fit it with either a 3/16 lens or 1/4". I can't be sure. Of course you can use one of the apertures that come with it and screw a regular 1/8" Verifier into this. Me? I want the bigger hole.

I gotta look at what I have and where it's at. MAybe we could work something out. You know. Pa. guy to Pa. guy.

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Thanks Barry,

I haven't had my eyes checked and I should. I know that distance wise I can see perfectly but my pins are starting to become another story. I think this will offer me a solution. I don't need glasses or anything to read yet or anything like that but I'm just noticing a difference in my pins.

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Rob, if you dont need reading glasses yet then , get the lowest power verifier. Without glasses I cant read but the lowest number one still clears up the pins for me.

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Thank you, I believe that is where I'll start. I'm hoping I can find a spot or place to try a few as they are not cheap at $20some a pop for just the verifier.

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That's what you get for living way up there in the middle of nowhere. Not to highjack, but do you ever get up to the Bowfestival in Forksville? I work a booth there almost every year. Right inside the big tan metal building, middle aisle.

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I have been very old school up until this year, so I am not familiar with the new peeps. Are you guys saying that it is possible to get a magnifying peep? If so, that would be awesome. Give me a list of the top quality brands and links to places that sell them online.

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Yes, I usually go every year. I have also worked booths at Forksville for River Valley Game Calls and Enigma Camo.

If I make this year, what booth?

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PM sent.

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Got it and thanks guys,

I went ahead and ordered a #5, purple, it's the least power and I'll give it a go. I changed my peep on my 82nd from a G5 to my Super Peep, and put the G5 on my Ally which previously held my Super Peep.

When it gets here, I'll give a report. I'll use it for an indoor 3D this weekend.

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Facinating! I need one of those. I can't read squat w/o my reading glasses (+1.75) and my pins are fuzzy and the target clear. I was thinking of wxtending the sight forward but this sounds like a much better idea.

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I'll let you know Andy, I would suspect I'll have it today or tomorrow.

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Rob,
I JUST found mine..........in an old bow case. I was pulling my hair out trying to find it.

I have the hooded Speacialty peep with the 1/4" aperture , reducer and verifiers.

The lens I have is a "pink" which I thought was the lowest power they had?

Anyway, I tried it for a couple days and found I would rather see the detail on the target vs on the pins. I just couldn't see the target detail as well as I would like with it but may try it again shortly. I was always paranoid of some funky lighting condition completely blurring out the target on me as well.

Also the entire peep set up with Verifier installed weighs 26 grains, my Tru-Peep only weighs 9 grains. That's pretty darn heavy for a peep sight.

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Barry,
Always looking for an edge...........ALWAYS. ;)

And hey I am an old guy, I turn 36 on Monday. :) Before you know it my shooting will go downhill and I'll have to retire to a life of scuba diving in some nice warm carribean waters.

(That actually doesn't sound too bad.:eek:)

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It should be here tomorrow. Purple/#5 is the lowest power.

Matt, from what I've been hearing from others is that the target is not effected with the verifier, your the first to say otherwise. Anyway, I ordered and will give it a go. I was outback shooting today, 40 yards, my .010 pin really elongated.

And I think my 82nd can handle the extra grains, so it'll shoot 329 instead of 330 fps. LOL :D [8D]

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I spoke with a friend who is an optometrist, and I have to go with Matt on this one. If you use a lens to clear up your near vision, just like reading glasses then everything distant will get blurry, at least a little. This is if you shoot with one eye shut like I do, not sure how it would work with both eyes open.

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All I can say is I use one and it doesnt blur my distance at all whether I have one eye shut or both open.

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I know it will with a clearifying lens but I thought a verifying lens is different. I'll know as soon as it comes in and I'll report back. I thought it'd been here today, perhaps tomorrow or Monday.

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For me it blurs........at least to a small degree. The pins are sharp but I'm used to being able to see scoring rings and very defined holes in targets with the naked eye and these go away thru the verifier. Maybe I need the new lowest power one? "Purple" is it?
The .010 pins do elongate on me with the naked eye and have a tendency to blend especially since I went Green.yellow,green,yellow,green. Maybe I'll mess with it on the new constitution and see.

If i had a bow where I wasn't trying to wring every last FPS out of I might try it again to be sure.........but I don't really want to sacrifice 4-5fps on my current 3d bow. The Airborne on the other hand? LOL Just make sure it's tied in well. ;):D

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Yes Matt, #5, purple. Purple to match color of strings you should shoot. Purple and Hot Pink.

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Easy thereAquaman, do even shoot a bow anymore? ;):D

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Well I got mine and the SOB doesn't fit my Super Peep. It's made to fit the NEW Super BALL peep. I have to send it back and see if there is one to fit my older Super Peep or I need to order that new peep.[:@]

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Rob, measure that insert and shoot me a PM with that number. I probably havea super peep for you that will fit this. I've got at least 3 of them that are all less than 3 years old that don't get used. I'll trade you for one of those mouth calls we were talking about. [8D]

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Did you take the old insert out first? I wasn't aware that they'd changed things. Maybe they did. I guess they sell more peeps that way.

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I got it squared, I just spent more money now I have two. The one I ordered was a 1/4". I needed the 1/8" for my Super Peep and the 1/4" fits the Super Ball Peep which I also ordered, now I have two in two sizes.:D

I'll still get ya that mouth call Matt, maybe even a better "custom" made one. :D

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In actuality the 1/4" Super Ball peep winds up being a 3/16" after you screw the verifier into it. Without the Verifier you can use it as a conventional 1/4" peep sight. I have the hooded one at home.

You will wind up using the 3/16" lens (1/4" housing) more than likely

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That's likely true Matt. I received it, actually the Super Ball Hooded Peep comes with an insert with no glass in it which 1/4, it's bigger without that insert. The Verifier that came is 1/4" and the 1/8" actually screws into the other insert without the glass....I'll have several options now.

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I think you're close. LOL :D

Without ANY insert the hole is 1/4", if you install that "reducer" without the lens it become 3/16", and your 1/8" Verifier will screw into that.
That first reducer doesn't make it 1/4" That big whopper hole without anything in it is the 1/4".

So if I'm not confusing myself now you will have the choice of:
1/4" regular peep (nothing installed)
3/16" regular peep if you just install the "reducer" only
3/16" Verifier peep if you use the large of the 2 verifier lenses only
1/8" Verifier peep if you screw that smaller Verifier lens into the 3/16" Reducer.

Whew. [:-]:D

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Matt, I believe you are correct and I have to add, it's a wonderful change. The pins are clear and the target is still clear. My groups improved already. I put the Hooded Super Ball Peep with the 1/4" verifier on my 82nd since it's so damn fast and the extra weight of the peep means nothing.

I have my older Super Peep with the 1/8" verifier on the General.

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I really wish they made a smaller version of the verifier peep. Would like to try it for shooting target, like say a 1/16 verifier peep.

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Old people!:eek:

What?

So Rob, if...... my dad had a Super Ball peep, whatis the differencefrom the olderSuper peep? I've switched out.... I mean, He's switched out regular apertures between the twoin the past without problems.

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Mantis, their newest super ball peep has a 1/4 hole in it is all. It is their peep designed for hunters. But it also has an adaptor with it so that you can use your other inserts in it from the regular and older peep sights.

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alot of good info on here guys, thanks for going into detail. My eyes are the same age as Robs :Di was looking at the verifier lenses at Gander yesterday, but i did not see the hooded peep. They had purple #5, pink #6, and blue #7 lenses. may be doing this myself next year. I was suprised at the price of these things, about $25.00 a pop for just the lenses. I did go ahead and pick up a G5 1/4" meta peep, its time to get away from the tube peep.