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englum_06 02-10-2008 12:35 PM

Tuning Question
 
I shoot a Reflex Excursion, 30" draw, #60, and I'm shooting Gold Tip XT's 5575 with a 100 gr tip

I tried getting my top pin on, but at 20 yards Im still 4" high. I have my top pin moved all the way up, and I also have my sight itself moved up as high as it can go.

I don't really know what to do with it. Would it be my peep? It seems to be perfect.

Any suggestions?

MO_Hoyt 02-10-2008 12:49 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 
what about moving your site closer to the bow???
on my bow i can move my sight at 3 differnt locations. close to my bow and 2 more that makes my site further from my bow.
thats the best i can do to expain it.

englum_06 02-10-2008 01:04 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 

ORIGINAL: MO_Hoyt

what about moving your site closer to the bow???
on my bow i can move my sight at 3 differnt locations. close to my bow and 2 more that makes my site further from my bow.
thats the best i can do to expain it.
Well, my sight is as close as it can come to the bow, but what if I moved it like one more hole away from the bow, and just dropped my pinsreal low?

MO_Hoyt 02-10-2008 01:17 PM

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if your bowseason is over, i do what ever it takes to make you feel confident in your shooting.

i was in the same boat your in a few years ago, but i only use 1 pin.

i got a bad memory so i dont remember how it affected my arrow path when i was tuning my bow, the only thing i remember was it took me a good day to get my site perfect and all i know is follow the arrow with your pin.

maybe go one hole further, but dont move your pins. see what that does. now im wishin i woulda wrote everything down on my experince with tuning my bow.
good luck on it.

Roskoe 02-10-2008 01:29 PM

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Reflex Excursion is a really nice bow. Is your arrow rest mounted so the arrow is even with the middle of the Berger hole?

Might also be the peep in relation to your anchor point. If you have a really low anchor, the peep is going to be higher - relative to the nocking point - and required a higher sight to get zeroed. For me, the distance from the center of the arrow shaft to the center of my peep at full draw is about 3.25".

BGfisher 02-10-2008 01:34 PM

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A picture would be really nice, but I'm going to bet your shooting form is the main fault here. Your pin is up and your sight is up. That usually means that your anchor is too low and the string peep and/or kisser button is too high above the nocking point.

Take this as a suggestion, but you probably need to lower the string peep and kisser (if you use one). How much? Whatever it takes. It's dependent on the angle of the string and other factors.

To accomplish this and maintain string contact references (touching nose?) you may have to shorten the draw length of the bow accordingly. This is usually the thing most guys don't want to do because they are either hard headed or don't want to give up any speed. Regardless you do what you have to do to make things fit. That's why most bows are adjustable in the first place.

Again, ths is only an educated guess as to the problem. Without a picture I can't confirm it.

englum_06 02-10-2008 05:06 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 
Ill take a pic or a video tonight and post it- I anchor with my nose on the string, with a kisser in the corner of my mouth, and then with my knuckle under my ear.

TFOX 02-10-2008 10:00 PM

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It might also just be a setup problem,as Roskoe stated,if the arrow is too high or the arrow is pointed up,this could causee your problem.

OHbowhntr 02-10-2008 10:14 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 

ORIGINAL: englum_06

Ill take a pic or a video tonight and post it- I anchor with my nose on the string, with a kisser in the corner of my mouth, and then with my knuckle under my ear.
What kind of site is it???? Tru-glo, Cobra, Spot Hogg, ?????

Also, as others have said, make sure you're nock point is correct, that can make for some disastrous tuning challenges, as I learned a several years ago (part of my reasoning fornot particularly caring for paper tuning).

Good Luck!!!

englum_06 02-10-2008 10:18 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 
Alright, let's see what ya think. I'm working with a timer so it's tough to get it down in time!








englum_06 02-10-2008 10:21 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 
I took it to the Bow shop to have it set up, Imean Im new to this and all, but he squared the rest in so I think that would be ok. He did all the leveling and everything and also put a loop on it and set the nock point as well.

The sight is a Cobra Boomslang.

OHbowhntr 02-10-2008 10:28 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 

ORIGINAL: englum_06

I took it to the Bow shop to have it set up, Imean Im new to this and all, but he squared the rest in so I think that would be ok. He did all the leveling and everything and also put a loop on it and set the nock point as well.

The sight is a Cobra Boomslang.
Can the base be flipped over??? Meaning, can you take the part that attaches to your bow and flip it 180* so it holds the pin housing higher??? They look like you could do that in pictures, but I haven't actually had "hands on" with one, so I don't know for sure. I had a Tru-Glo that you could do that with, and it got me where I needed to be when setting up one of my older bows.

englum_06 02-10-2008 10:43 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 

ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr


ORIGINAL: englum_06

I took it to the Bow shop to have it set up, Imean Im new to this and all, but he squared the rest in so I think that would be ok. He did all the leveling and everything and also put a loop on it and set the nock point as well.

The sight is a Cobra Boomslang.
Can the base be flipped over??? Meaning, can you take the part that attaches to your bow and flip it 180* so it holds the pin housing higher??? They look like you could do that in pictures, but I haven't actually had "hands on" with one, so I don't know for sure. I had a Tru-Glo that you could do that with, and it got me where I needed to be when setting up one of my older bows.

THATS A POSSIBILITY!!! Now Im excited! lol- maybe I can fix it myself...

englum_06 02-10-2008 11:10 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 

ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr


ORIGINAL: englum_06

I took it to the Bow shop to have it set up, Imean Im new to this and all, but he squared the rest in so I think that would be ok. He did all the leveling and everything and also put a loop on it and set the nock point as well.

The sight is a Cobra Boomslang.
Can the base be flipped over??? Meaning, can you take the part that attaches to your bow and flip it 180* so it holds the pin housing higher??? They look like you could do that in pictures, but I haven't actually had "hands on" with one, so I don't know for sure. I had a Tru-Glo that you could do that with, and it got me where I needed to be when setting up one of my older bows.

Well, I flipped it and went downstairs and shot it.

It was shooting high like I said, and so now it did raise the sight, so when I shot at 12 yards in my basement with the base flipped, it was about 6 inches lower. IT WORKED!

Thank you sir! Ive had a headache over this for three days now!



OHbowhntr 02-10-2008 11:52 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 

ORIGINAL: englum_06


ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr


ORIGINAL: englum_06

I took it to the Bow shop to have it set up, Imean Im new to this and all, but he squared the rest in so I think that would be ok. He did all the leveling and everything and also put a loop on it and set the nock point as well.

The sight is a Cobra Boomslang.
Can the base be flipped over??? Meaning, can you take the part that attaches to your bow and flip it 180* so it holds the pin housing higher??? They look like you could do that in pictures, but I haven't actually had "hands on" with one, so I don't know for sure. I had a Tru-Glo that you could do that with, and it got me where I needed to be when setting up one of my older bows.

Well, I flipped it and went downstairs and shot it.

It was shooting high like I said, and so now it did raise the sight, so when I shot at 12 yards in my basement with the base flipped, it was about 6 inches lower. IT WORKED!

Thank you sir! Ive had a headache over this for three days now!


Cool, good to hear!!!!

englum_06 02-11-2008 12:03 AM

RE: Tuning Question
 
Yeah Im really glad it wasn't anything like the nock point, the rest, my anchor points or anything else like that. Looking at it now, I don't know why I ever put it on like that in the first place, but I think the package showed it being on like that.

OHbowhntr 02-11-2008 12:30 AM

RE: Tuning Question
 

ORIGINAL: englum_06

Yeah Im really glad it wasn't anything like the nock point, the rest, my anchor points or anything else like that. Looking at it now, I don't know why I ever put it on like that in the first place, but I think the package showed it being on like that.
Pat,
I've seen the pictures, and wondered how well it'd work set up that way, especially with a moderate to long draw and a faster bow. Throw in a longer axle-to-axle, and certainly the higher setting would be better than the lower setting from my experience, because of string angle. How do you like the site as far as pin brightness??? It looks like a re-designed Sidewinder, and I wondered how bright they are. Plus I like the fact that the fiber is more or less hidden by the design in comparison withthe Sidewinder.

englum_06 02-11-2008 12:40 AM

RE: Tuning Question
 
I like it pretty well so far. It has two red and two green pinsbut I know alot of people don't like red pins for their sights. I got on Cabela's and read the review (4.7 out of 5) by 11 or 12 people.

They all said it was great so I bought it since Im a beginner and it seemed to be the best bang for the buck ($60) compared to the prices on the other ones. It's pretty easy to adjust as well.

There's some real cheap one's on ebay right now! I wish I woulda thought about ebay when I bought all my accessories!

BGfisher 02-11-2008 08:31 AM

RE: Tuning Question
 
Glad you got things working without any major changes.

I wouldn't sweat the loss of buying on EBay. Usually till you get done getting raped on shipping charges you can buy right at home and see what you are buying. Besides, your pro-shop guy likes you better, too.

englum_06 02-11-2008 09:58 AM

RE: Tuning Question
 

ORIGINAL: BGfisher

Glad you got things working without any major changes.

I wouldn't sweat the loss of buying on EBay. Usually till you get done getting raped on shipping charges you can buy right at home and see what you are buying. Besides, your pro-shop guy likes you better, too.
Yeah I was really glad. It's funny how something so simple like that could puzzle me for three days. I guess that's why I come here!

PA Hardwoods 02-11-2008 10:23 AM

RE: Tuning Question
 
don't feel bad buddy. I've had to do that to many of the bows that have the Boomslang on them that come into the shop I work. It really freaks guys out. They come in all confused and leave very humbled when all you needed to do was flip the mounting bracket. LOL. Glad you figured it out.

englum_06 02-11-2008 10:27 AM

RE: Tuning Question
 
LOL, yeah I was pretty pumped when I realized that it actually worked. Guess it's just one of those things that's so simple it get's overlooked.

TFOX 02-11-2008 04:25 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 
Good deal that flipping it fixed it and that looks like it is the way it should have been mounted to begin with,unusuall for the locking screw to be on the bottom.



badger109 02-11-2008 08:50 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: Roskoe

Reflex Excursion is a really nice bow. Is your arrow rest mounted so the arrow is even with the middle of the Berger hole? [/quiote]

Are you kidding? Excursions are actually decent bows. best $200 I ever spent. Not the fastest or quietest, but it shoots good.

im gonna jack the thread here. sorry.

but wtf is a berger hole? Is it that little hole that goes through the riser? I've never heard of it or knew that's how the arrow is supposed to be set up.



TFOX 02-11-2008 09:14 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 
The hole that goes through the riser that the rest mounts to.

englum_06 02-11-2008 09:58 PM

RE: Tuning Question
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: badger109


ORIGINAL: Roskoe

Reflex Excursion is a really nice bow. Is your arrow rest mounted so the arrow is even with the middle of the Berger hole? [/quiote]

Are you kidding? Excursions are actually decent bows. best $200 I ever spent. Not the fastest or quietest, but it shoots good.

im gonna jack the thread here. sorry.

but wtf is a berger hole? Is it that little hole that goes through the riser? I've never heard of it or knew that's how the arrow is supposed to be set up.
Here Badger Ill post a pic for ya in a second!

englum_06 02-11-2008 10:03 PM

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