the FOB??
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Fork Horn
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From: carroll, IA/ Mountain Home AFB
I just got some in the mail and shot them about 15 times. So far i like them. They are noticable faster and flatter shooting at longer ranges and they are easy as heck to put on and start shooting. They are not noise but they have a diffrent sound that is noticable. That sound is caused by the airfoil that is made with the air flowing over the fob, kinda like the wing of an aircraft. hope this helps. I would say if you have an extra 20 bucks sitting around give'm a shot you wont be disapointed.
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Fork Horn
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From: michigan
thanks mac87 i will give them a try.i know the say to crest your arrow in a bright color because if you have a pass-thru on a animal the FOB pops off leaving your bare shaft somewhere,or passing thru a target.i have camo ST axis and dont like losing $10 in the weeds but i am going to order them and see how they fly..do they come with a special nock to hold the FOB in place??
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Fork Horn
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From: carroll, IA/ Mountain Home AFB
No they dont come with a specital nock you just use the one that came with your arrows. I shoot the same arrows and they work really well for me. I would recomand a good cresting maybe something with reflective tape in it or something. good luck and good shooting. I would call and order them the guy i talked to had alot of good info. Tell him that marshall told you to call. I ordered mine about two weeks ago got them within a couple of days and have been impressed ever since.
#6
Howdy All!
It has been a while for me on this forum (sorry about that). I saw there was some FOB talk so thought I would join in if that is OK?
Ipromise NEVER to try and sell anything just answer questions. Looks like we are just about over the "gimmick" phase. Yikes! that only took 3 years.
Regards,
It has been a while for me on this forum (sorry about that). I saw there was some FOB talk so thought I would join in if that is OK?
Ipromise NEVER to try and sell anything just answer questions. Looks like we are just about over the "gimmick" phase. Yikes! that only took 3 years.
Regards,
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Eastern PA USA
I just got mine today. Checked for clearance with my "homemade Limbdriver" and all is well. I hope to put something together on the FOBs and the Victory arrows that I just got. I will post something when I know more.
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From: Blissfield MI USA
Ok here is my take on them. They do look easy to use, much faster than conventional fletching no doubt about that. I do have some issues with them though. Keep in mind I have never used them, because I shoot mostly aluminum arrows and because of some of the issues I will mention.
Number one I don't like the fact that you need to remove the nocks to put them on, or that when they pass through something the nock will come off. I like my nocks tight, and the more you move them or take them in and out this will loosen them up. Also The spine of your arrow changes depending on where it flexes on the axis of the shaft. This is why some adjust their nocks to fine tune the spine of their arrows. If you shoot at something and your nock comes out you have screwed things up. I guess you could mark both though, but I still don't like the idea of the nocks coming out when you shoot an animal. Nock adjustment and fit is pretty important in arrow tuning and many over look it. And it is even more critical when you are talking about large broads heads.
Also what happens when you are shooting into a target, especially a harder target like a 3-D target? Does the FOB eventually start sliding down the shaft from the impact of the arrow hitting the target? I would think unless they are a very tight fit this would start happening. And while we are on that subject they would have to decrease penetration when talking about passing through an animal. If the FOB is a tight press fit, and the nock is a tight press fit (it should be) this is a lot of resistance that has to be over come in order to pop both off in order to get through the animal. Some lighter set ups have problems getting a conventionally fletched arrows to pass all the way through a deer, this would pretty much guarantee it wouldn't get through I would think.
I have also had set ups where I had to rotate my fletchings so they would clear the cables, I need one fletching pointing to the outside of the bow and the other two at up and down angles to the cable in order to get it to clear. This simply could not be done with this product. And what about some drop away rests and set ups that you need to have one vane pointing up in order to get good clearance? I will admit that this product is a bit smaller in diameter than most fletchings though.
It has ZERO forgiveness with contact issues.
What if you hit one with another arrow? My guess is it will be ruined and pretty much unshootable. At least with vanes they will work relatively well until you can refletch them, they just make more noise. And with feathers it doesn't matter at all. Sure you could just pop the nock off and put a new one on, but lets not forget these babies are $20 a dozen (without shipping) so that is like a 1.50 to 2 bucks every time you hit one with another arrow and damage it. Or someone else if you are shooting 3-D with someone that likes to aim at your nocks
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I honestly can't see them being faster either, they weigh virtually the same as most 4 inch vanes so they are going to be pretty much the same speed. You can theorize all you want about it, but you won't see a speed advantage I am sure. I doubt most chronographs are even accurate enough to register the difference.
In my opinion blazers are cheaper, weigh less and work great. And feathers weigh even less and are very forgiving.
And please don't think I am saying these things are junk and no one should by them. I am not saying that at all. It is a very innovative idea and probably very appealing to some. I mean they would be great if you didn't shoot that much and hated fletching arrows. Just pull your nock off and put them on. It doesn't get much simpler than that. However for me they don't offer one advantage I would be interested in.
They are a lot like the Turbo Nock in my opinion.
My opinion and nothing more. I'm not real fond of the WB rests either but a ton of people love them.
Paul
Number one I don't like the fact that you need to remove the nocks to put them on, or that when they pass through something the nock will come off. I like my nocks tight, and the more you move them or take them in and out this will loosen them up. Also The spine of your arrow changes depending on where it flexes on the axis of the shaft. This is why some adjust their nocks to fine tune the spine of their arrows. If you shoot at something and your nock comes out you have screwed things up. I guess you could mark both though, but I still don't like the idea of the nocks coming out when you shoot an animal. Nock adjustment and fit is pretty important in arrow tuning and many over look it. And it is even more critical when you are talking about large broads heads.
Also what happens when you are shooting into a target, especially a harder target like a 3-D target? Does the FOB eventually start sliding down the shaft from the impact of the arrow hitting the target? I would think unless they are a very tight fit this would start happening. And while we are on that subject they would have to decrease penetration when talking about passing through an animal. If the FOB is a tight press fit, and the nock is a tight press fit (it should be) this is a lot of resistance that has to be over come in order to pop both off in order to get through the animal. Some lighter set ups have problems getting a conventionally fletched arrows to pass all the way through a deer, this would pretty much guarantee it wouldn't get through I would think.
I have also had set ups where I had to rotate my fletchings so they would clear the cables, I need one fletching pointing to the outside of the bow and the other two at up and down angles to the cable in order to get it to clear. This simply could not be done with this product. And what about some drop away rests and set ups that you need to have one vane pointing up in order to get good clearance? I will admit that this product is a bit smaller in diameter than most fletchings though.
It has ZERO forgiveness with contact issues.
What if you hit one with another arrow? My guess is it will be ruined and pretty much unshootable. At least with vanes they will work relatively well until you can refletch them, they just make more noise. And with feathers it doesn't matter at all. Sure you could just pop the nock off and put a new one on, but lets not forget these babies are $20 a dozen (without shipping) so that is like a 1.50 to 2 bucks every time you hit one with another arrow and damage it. Or someone else if you are shooting 3-D with someone that likes to aim at your nocks
.I honestly can't see them being faster either, they weigh virtually the same as most 4 inch vanes so they are going to be pretty much the same speed. You can theorize all you want about it, but you won't see a speed advantage I am sure. I doubt most chronographs are even accurate enough to register the difference.
In my opinion blazers are cheaper, weigh less and work great. And feathers weigh even less and are very forgiving.
And please don't think I am saying these things are junk and no one should by them. I am not saying that at all. It is a very innovative idea and probably very appealing to some. I mean they would be great if you didn't shoot that much and hated fletching arrows. Just pull your nock off and put them on. It doesn't get much simpler than that. However for me they don't offer one advantage I would be interested in.
They are a lot like the Turbo Nock in my opinion.
My opinion and nothing more. I'm not real fond of the WB rests either but a ton of people love them.
Paul
#9
I have a couple dozen of them ...I shot on the other day and broke to peices...won't use on again...plus if you use Lumenoks you might lose it since it pops off when it goes thru a deer!
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Fork Horn
Joined: May 2004
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From: carroll, IA/ Mountain Home AFB
Those are all good points that you have brought up but, know hear me out. I am not trying to change peoples minds but just give you food for thought. First off they are a very good fit on the arrow and they can not slide down the shaft because of the way it is made. You would have to see one for it to make sence, that was also one of my first problems and then saw how they go on and that solved that problem They go on kinda loose you can rotate them on the shaft very easaly but once you press the nock in it tightens the fob up so you can not rotate it without some effort. Next the penatration thin. They do come off with relative easy but not easy enough to come off walking through your normal stuff, heavy brush or grass maybe but you would have to be awfuly carless pushing your arrows through thick stuff for them to come off. When the fob pops off it holds your nock so the nock and fob come off as one peace so you shouldn't loose any nock lighted or not. I will say they dont hold up well hitting each other. That is a definet problem, but like pual told me if you are shooting a 3-D shoot, "shot a regularly fleched arrow and close targets that you know people will be stacking them in there on, and then go to a dark colored FOB for those longer shots or ones with heavy cross wind. They scince is behind it to improve speed with the creation of an airfowl around the FOB. It makes a pocket of air around the fob causing far less drag on the arrow then normal flechings. That being said you will only pick-up around 5 to 6 FPS. I have a good friend that shoots the big zwicky 2 blades and he loves them. Dosnt have to adjust them just put them on and shoot. He shot a alligence at 294fps and they shoot perfect. the clearing the cables or rest thing is something you will just have deal with if they wont clear you cant shoot them, no way around it. I hope this helps a little if you have any questions PM me and i will try and give you any more info i can. I also want to say that i am not a team shooter or sponsered by them i am just a average everyday shooter/tinkerer.


