I agree, very sound advice!

Speed is good! Last year I was shootingMaxima Hunter 350's out ofa 70# Golden Eagle Splitfire 2 with a 6"bh at 296 fps.I took three deer and didn't have to worry about which pin to use unless it exceeded35 yds. Bought an Elite Synergy this year w/7" bh. It's shooting the same arrow w/lighterbroadhead at 65# and 310fps. I have 3 pins set. 0-35, 40, & 50. Took two deer this year. I really like being able to pick a spot and not worry about whether it is 15 or 30 yards. There isn't an inch difference in the point of impact and there is more than enough KE to blow through any deer. Both deer taken this year were shot after they walked past me, over the rear hip, through the lung and, on the buck,centering the heart.The arrow passedthrough a lot of meat andneither deer wentover 50 yards.

I am confident shooting bows any where along the Speed chart. I use a range finder regardless. I personally like as fast a bow as I can shoot comfortably and pleasureably. I shot the Guardian this season the majority of the time and honestly have not chronographed my current arrow, but it makes me no difference. It will be in the truck with me when I head west for a late season Mule Deer hunt next week and a Good Buck better not give me a shot at 45 yards and in or he is in trouble
The more I shoot the General the better I like it. It truly is the most shock free, quiet Bow I have ever shot, and each year I make a point to shoot them all
I still remember when archers thought a hunting rig shooting over 200fps was fast

Dan

You better get out here, Dan. The Mule Deer are rutting big time! We were out late season elk hunting this morning and saw 7 different mulie bucks - all pretty much preoccupied with Mrs. Doe. Fresh 8" of snow out here overnight . . . . it was like a Hallmark Christmas Card.

Bringthe General and some Rage 2 blade expandables

Yep!! Talked to the guywho owns the groundwhere I'll be hunting last night, and he pretty much told me the same thing. I am going to try and get Murphy out of my back pocket before I leave. He said they had 7" of snowand it was still snowing last night. I'll be prepared to hunt daylight til dark with a combination of blind hunting and spot and stalk. Now if the right Mulie will cooperate.

I think my Guardian and General will both make the trip. I think my Slick Trick 125 grain Magnums will toast anything out there.
Hope to post pics

Dan

yards
time
drop

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0.047923
0.443354

1213
0.095847
1.773414

1819
0.14377
3.990182

2425
0.191693
7.093656

3031
0.239617
11.08384

3637
0.28754
15.96073

4243
0.335463
21.72432

4849
0.383387
28.37462

5455
0.43131
35.91163

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0.479233
44.33535

This is my table for a 313 fps arrow assuming a perfect parabola and an arrow that doesn't slow down. This shows an arrow zeroed at 25 about 5 inches high at 20 yards and 6 inches low at 30 yards. [Maybe a person could do better with some kind of planing? of the arrow. ]

At any rate, even with this very fast arrow, range estimation is critical even with fairly close targets.

But I think that Arthur P is right on! heavy has a lot of advantages. Speed just has this one (or two, I suppose, less time to jump the string). And penetration is generally much better with heavy, all else being equal.

I can't fix the table without getting a java error, but it should show that the drop is 7, 11 and 16 inches for 20, 25 and 30 yards.

4 high and 5 low if zeroed at 25, not what I said.

Don't worry about the table. I hate arrow drop tables anyway. They don't really mean anything in the real world because we shoot arrows on a trajectory. We need to see trajectory tables if we truly want to know how much difference speed really makes.

Steve Jackson used to have Andrew Middleton's excellent graphing trajectory calculator on his site. Unfortunately,the link is brokennow but I used to spend hours on there comparing different arrows and then trying them out on the range.

Speed is great for hunting. It was at one time to get a speed bow it had to be a low brace height, short are a very extreme reflexed riser. Now days the loop has made it easer to shoot shorter bows. The new fast bow are reflexed, but with the newer cam systems we can shoot them with out them being as critical as the past bows. I'm a old pro finger shooter and have shot a lots different of bows. I was always on a bow company's pro staff and always had shot deflexed risers for years. Now that I shoot a release and a loop right away I could go to shorter bows. I still like a higher brace height and I got me a new Black ice this year and I must say it one that its a real shooter. Quit, fast, very easy to shoot, accurate, 7 1/2 brace height and don't haft to think as much about things like the distance and just make the shot happen. A few inches off can make the different s between a good are a bad hit. It is going to be one of my better shooting hunting bows. Bows have come a long way with the new risers and cam systems. With speed I can get a harder hitting and great penetrating bow with cleaner kills with out shooting a 70 are 80 pound bows like I did before for bowhunting.

NO TRUER WORDS... with regards to bowhunting...