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Gettin a new rest...
due to malfuction, my old quick tune micro has been removed. I am selecting a new rest tomorrow and would like some input. I have heard a lot of the WB (good and not so good), but what do you think of the quick tune 360 or a drop away? Looking for some guidence.
I shoot an 04 Bear TRX 29" draw @ 67lb 31" st epic 300 with blaser vanes I shoot a release and 80% from a 15' stand Any info would definately be appreciated |
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Wake up and smell the gutpiles!
And get a whisker biscuit! Good luck hunting! >>>------------> |
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usually the only people saying something bad about WB are people who dont use one or people who dont set it up right (its not hard)ive used a WB for at least 6years never had a problem, no dropped arrows, no hang ups, no broken strings, nothing to get in the way of making my shots on deer.
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i use a trophy ridge drop away, its a great rest. i have recently tried the trophy taker pronghorn dropaway but i don't like it, i will be goinig back to the trophy ridge. i have a friend that uses a whisker biscuit and loves it.
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Something is really going to have to happen for me to change my mind about my WB. I have shot one ever since they came out on the market and it is the best all around huntingrest I have ever used.
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SJ... I went with a WB and am so far pleased wit hits simplicity and easy set up..However..after shooting through it last night I have notced some markings on the Blaser fletchings...what would cause this..Cock feather up, strong marking on the right and a soft marking on the left...any ideas??? I will post a pic in a min...
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this is not my pic..it belongs to m00sedrool who has the same markings as i..any ideas...
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If your thinking about the WB.... Look at the Hostage too and you deceide. Less contact with arrow, no contact with you vanes.
I don't use either, but I have owned a WB and wouldn't recommend it to any one.  |
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I currently have a WB and like it but i dont love it. The rest i have been currently eyeing up is the QAD Ultra Rest. If i buy a new bow im definately going with a drop away but the WB will allways be on my back up bow.
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You won't be dissapointed in the performance aspect of the QAD for sure. It functions awesome, but if your bow is a Hoyt I would ask to put the rest on first before you buy it. Mine does not adjust very much because it hits the TEC riser. TheWB is a great hunting rest. You won't go wrong with it.
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I agree with the rev...I use to use a WB and I was constantly having to re-fletch my arrows. If you want a WB, then look towards the hostage...
I personally use a drop away which I love leaps and bounds over the WB. Just my two cents... |
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http://www.vaportrailarchery.com/default.htmlBuilt like a tank. Easy to tune. My 2 cents, Limb Driver Pro, Best fallaway on the market today.
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The guy at the pro shop had nothing but good things to say about the Spot Hogg Whammy rest, so i bought it. Its a drop away and it is AMAZING! I really like it.
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I'd try out the limb saver drop. Then again I know what I want in a rest and could quickly tell if it would fit the bill. Haven't seen one yet but it looks as if it would be the ticket. Buy what ever from a place you can return it. Most places even though they claim 100% satisfaction are anything but. Cabela's is a good place to buy from. There are some storesI could mention to avoid. One of the biggest things that burns me is a product tht the manufacture must know is crap, but they swindle guys into buying one and know they have no way of returning it after they try it. They can kiss my ... and go out of business.
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I had a WB and now I have the QAD Ultra and love it. Why would anyone want ANY contact with shaft and fletching when launching an arrow? Just doesn't make any sense to me. With the QAD Ultra you get total arrow containment just like the WB AND the benifits of a drop away. How can you beat that!
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ORIGINAL: Bowtech9 I had a WB and now I have the QAD Ultra and love it. Why would anyone want ANY contact with shaft and fletching when launching an arrow? Just doesn't make any sense to me. With the QAD Ultra you get total arrow containment just like the WB AND the benifits of a drop away. How can you beat that! The range that I frequent has mostly WB shooters. I'll bet 80-90% are using it and I'm one. This includes a lot of very experienced hunters who always get many big game animals. None of them have problems with fletching coming off or being rippled. None have trouble tuning them or their bows that contain them. None have trouble with noise or freezing bisquits or any of the other problems one hears about so frequently on these forums. The reason - the shop owner knows his stuff and sets them and the arrows up properly. There is no way in the world that tens of thousands of hunters can be having no complaints if the rest had inherent problems. Those having trouble simply don't know how to properly set one up, or how to properly fletch an arrow so they work with one. I have no problem with anyone who prefers a different rest, but to suggest that the WB is going to automatically cause trouble, is wrong. |
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ORIGINAL: Straightarrow ORIGINAL: Bowtech9 I had a WB and now I have the QAD Ultra and love it. Why would anyone want ANY contact with shaft and fletching when launching an arrow? Just doesn't make any sense to me. With the QAD Ultra you get total arrow containment just like the WB AND the benifits of a drop away. How can you beat that! The range that I frequent has mostly WB shooters. I'll bet 80-90% are using it and I'm one. This includes a lot of very experienced hunters who always get many big game animals. None of them have problems with fletching coming off or being rippled. None have trouble tuning them or their bows that contain them. None have trouble with noise or freezing bisquits or any of the other problems one hears about so frequently on these forums. The reason - the shop owner knows his stuff and sets them and the arrows up properly. There is no way in the world that tens of thousands of hunters can be having no complaints if the rest had inherent problems. Those having trouble simply don't know how to properly set one up, or how to properly fletch an arrow so they work with one. I have no problem with anyone who prefers a different rest, but to suggest that the WB is going to automatically cause trouble, is wrong. |
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Use a QAD Ultra drop-away rest.:DI love it!!!!:D
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I never suggested that the WB would cause fletching problems with tearing or coming off I was talking more about speed or a slight loss of it from the contact with the wiskers. I guess it like they say...........To each his own! |
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For Full containment I would look no further than the Hostage by Bowtech. It has all the advantages of the WB without all the fletch contact. As far as Drop Away rests there is none better than the Limb Driver.;)
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i agree with 8pt. if oyu're in the market for a dropaway, take a look at the qad ultra rest
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ORIGINAL: jkcmerg SJ... I went with a WB and am so far pleased wit hits simplicity and easy set up..However..after shooting through it last night I have notced some markings on the Blaser fletchings...what would cause this..Cock feather up, strong marking on the right and a soft marking on the left...any ideas??? I will post a pic in a min... I had something that looked similar on my blazers (also shooting WB), but it wasn't from the rest. I didn't have enough clearance from my cables (the blazers are pretty tall) and they were rubbing my cables on the way by. The issue was actually with the factory slide (the cables were starting to cut through it). The marks look very similar, though. Maybe not your issue, just something to check. I have a Bowtech Guardian. I just had this rest installed today (as suggested by Rev) and am really liking it. Has all the advantages of the WB without having to worry about damage to vanes or the brushes as much as with the WB. |
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Do a search on the Muzzy Zero Effect rest. I saw it last week and have made the decision to get one next year. I was not impressed with the WB. I have a QAD right now and the only thing I can complain about is the moleskin that comes with it always seems to fall off. I am on my second third set now.
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Over eleven years have passed since I got my first whisker biscuit in the mail from a new company, Carolina Archery Products.
A lot of folks said it would never work. They were wrong. It did work. For over eleven years I have not had to replace moleskin, nailpolish, or heat shrink something on the prongs of my arrowrest so I could shoot my bow again. The old biscuit took a few hundred shots to wear in before they would draw and shoot quiet. The savvy hunters that actually shot the rest that many times recognized that fact and became repeat customers for the rest, getting a new whisker biscuit when the got another bow. And they saved the well worn biscuits for hunting! The biscuit got improved over the years. The B-2 biscuit has zero speed loss compared to the original. But the biscuit still doesn't need any tape, moleskin, nailpolish, or plastic put on it to make it work. And its still the most reliable piece of archery equipment you will ever own. Tuning a bow with a biscuit is so easy a caveman could do it. I never understood why anyone would take a bow and add more things to that could go wrong to it. And that is what I see with dropaway rests. I have seen plenty of posts where people try to improve the whisker biscuit by cutting or burning it for fletching clearance, but all they are really doing is defeating the selfcentering properties of the rest. The bristles will push the arrow back to the center if the arrows gets bumped or torqued off-center when the bow is drawn. And that is one of the biscuit's safest features. The biscuit is quiet to draw and quiet to shoot. It doesn't freeze up or fail to lift or drop which can and does happen at times with the dropaways. Look around and you will see a bunch of other guys have figured this stuff out too, and they are using the whisker biscuit. Good luck choosing a rest. Hope you choose wisely. Good luck hunting! >>>------------> |
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ORIGINAL: Arrroman Over eleven years have passed since I got my first whisker biscuit in the mail from a new company, Carolina Archery Products. A lot of folks said it would never work. They were wrong. It did work. For over eleven years I have not had to replace moleskin, nailpolish, or heat shrink something on the prongs of my arrowrest so I could shoot my bow again. The old biscuit took a few hundred shots to wear in before they would draw and shoot quiet. The savvy hunters that actually shot the rest that many times recognized that fact and became repeat customers for the rest, getting a new whisker biscuit when the got another bow. And they saved the well worn biscuits for hunting! The biscuit got improved over the years. The B-2 biscuit has zero speed loss compared to the original. But the biscuit still doesn't need any tape, moleskin, nailpolish, or plastic put on it to make it work. And its still the most reliable piece of archery equipment you will ever own. Tuning a bow with a biscuit is so easy a caveman could do it. I never understood why anyone would take a bow and add more things to that could go wrong to it. And that is what I see with dropaway rests. I have seen plenty of posts where people try to improve the whisker biscuit by cutting or burning it for fletching clearance, but all they are really doing is defeating the selfcentering properties of the rest. The bristles will push the arrow back to the center if the arrows gets bumped or torqued off-center when the bow is drawn. And that is one of the biscuit's safest features. The biscuit is quiet to draw and quiet to shoot. It doesn't freeze up or fail to lift or drop which can and does happen at times with the dropaways. Look around and you will see a bunch of other guys have figured this stuff out too, and they are using the whisker biscuit. Good luck choosing a rest. Hope you choose wisely. Good luck hunting! >>>------------> I too have been using a Whisker Biscuit for a long time, (10 years) The original all black bristles needed to be shot a lot for them to break in. This is where the Biscuit picked up it's notorious reputation for ruining fletching and slowing down arrows. Folks started to trim bristles or cut some out. etc... After the B2 biscuit was released, (the brown and black ones) all of these problems disappeared. The only reason it happens now is if it's not set upcorrectly or the wrong size opening is used. It's either that or I have a "magical Biscuit" on mybow because I've experienced none of the problems noted. IMHO it's by far and away the best hunting rest you can buy. It just flat out works and works well. |
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I am very impressed with the Spot Hogg Whammy. It takes a bit of time to tune (properly), but once that's done you're off to the races.
A few days ago I left an arrow buried in a target for an hour or so. The vanes on the shaft were completely disfigured. They were twisted in every direction, opposed to beingperfect, making a perfect arrow to'test' the performance of a drop away. The Whammy passed with flying colours. This arrow flew (out to 50 yards) just as well as the other arrows with vanes in shape, proving that the drop away on the Whammy was doing its job very well. |
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The perfect test is a subjective thing.
Just because something works today, that doesn't mean it will work when it gets wet and freezes and the wind blows. At least with the whisker biscuit you can poke your finger in it and know whether or not the arrow will pass through it, even if the rest of the bow were covered with ice. The litany of excuses for the dropaways not working sound like "the dog ate my homework" to me. I don't need any excuses. I shoot a biscuit. Good luck hunting! >>>------------> |
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ORIGINAL: Arrroman The litany of excuses for the dropaways not working sound like "the dog ate my homework" to me. I don't need any excuses. I shoot a biscuit. Good luck hunting! >>>------------> If unfortunately, a drop away fails, I take it as a snag and not an excuse. And while I get your point about the WB--KISS(keep it stupid simple) who knows when Ole' man Murphy pays a visit what else on a bow/hunt couldfail to close the deal. Just a part of life---what's 100% perfect? |
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