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Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
I just wanted to post this to see if this is a normal thing to be happening. This bow is about one month old and the upper limb has cracked length wise. I called bowtech and they will not deal with me direct. They say I need to go back to Gander Mtn. where I purchased it and to have them contact us, ( us being Bowtech).
This really stinks[:@] I love the way the bow shoots and feels.They just need to maybe use a better quality limb. I've shot it aprox. 200 times. Will Bowtech take care of this in a timely fassion? Or will I get hosed? Also, what is the length of the string and cable? Thanks for the help Nick |
RE: Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
I have never heard of the liberty having limb issues. I hear of the allegences and tributes in 05-06. I have a liberty with maybe 4000 shots thru it without issue.
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Thanks for the reply. Nope, I didn't dry fire it. I was simply shooting last Saturday and on one draw I heard a light crunching or a creaking noise. I still released the arrow and all was well except for the splinter which is now present in my upper limb.
At least this seems to be a isolated incident. I'll hope for the best, that Gander Mtn. will do like they should. ( I have'nt had the best of luck with them in the past) I know this will raise a question as to why I purchased my bow from them then. Well I just figured that I could deal directly with Bowtech ( like I have with Parker) .... I was wrong. Nick |
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I love bowtech, but the things that really bother me about buying from them is the nontransferable warranty and having to deal with the dealer at all times. I think you can take it to another dealer.
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BowTech is a great company, and they will fix it at no charge to you, I can't see them saying NO!!!!
BowTech's limbs are known to have the most problems within the bow community, this something they need to work on, cause overall they make a great product |
RE: Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
happened to me this past spring with my 07 Allegiance, took about 2 weeks to get the limbs in, since then no probs and the bow shoots awesome..
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Thanks again fellas. So if they are having bad luck with limbs. Will the new limb-limbs be any different or better?
I've actually got the ball rolling with Gander mtn. My Bow is in their possesion, which I really do not like. But, I'll give them one chance to make it happen for me. If they drop the ball, i'll never buy a big ticket item from them again. Nick |
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Does anyone know the string and cable length?
Thanks again Nick |
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My buddy and I both had 05 allegiances and he went through two sets of limbs in a year. Although bowtech was fairly quick to take care of that problem he switched brands do to several other problems with the bow.
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i had a 2004 liberty, and after 3 sets of limbs, it was determined as a limb pocket problem. There is just too much pre-stress in those limbs as fars as im concerned.
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Does anyone know the string and cable length? |
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I had a limb split on my Diamond Victory a few months ago. Bowtech took care of the problem and the bow shoots great now. I wanted to deal direct with Bowtech but they made me go through a dealer. It all worked out well and I have no complaints. It took about 2 weeks to get done and get the bow back in my hands. The dealer was the cause of the 2 week wait. Bowtech had new limbs shipped out in less than a week.
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ORIGINAL: BOWHUNTERCOP BowTech's limbs are known to have the most problems within the bow community, this something they need to work on, cause overall they make a great product Bowtech will take care of it.. one reason I don't buy from package stores, most pro shops will give you a loaner until you're limbs come back. Know what you're aretalking about before you say it. Seems to be a lot of that on this site. |
RE: Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
ORIGINAL: The Rev ORIGINAL: BOWHUNTERCOP BowTech's limbs are known to have the most problems within the bow community, this something they need to work on, cause overall they make a great product Bowtech will take care of it.. one reason I don't buy from package stores, most pro shops will give you a loaner until you're limbs come back. Know what you're aretalking about before you say it. Seems to be a lot of that on this site. But all that said rev, bowtech seems have really struggled with this. I personally know 2 people with split limbs from 04-06. I know in 02-04, mathews had thier issues with limbs but haven't heard from them since, then hoyt had a few years or it. I hear hoyt now uses matched limb pairs, and worked thru the issue. I realize bowtech will take care of the issue IF, you are the original owner. What happens when you are not the original owner? Bowhunters notoriously like to sell and trade, and try out new things. |
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Thanks for the great feedback fellas. At this point I can only hope that gander mtn. will pull through. I have no doubt that Bowtech wants a happy customer. But we sure didn't get off on the right foot. I don't like relying upon someone to fix my bow. Which is why I wanted to deal direct. I feel that no one cares more about my bow than me. Nothing against Gander Mtn. but the lads they have there really don't give a hoot about anything except collecting their paycheck. I know that sounds mean and nasty. I really don't intend for it to sound that way, I am just simply stating a fact.
Nick |
RE: Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
All bow companies experience about a 1-2% failure rate on limbs. Pretty well all the top companies have lifetime "non transferable" warranties also. So Bowtech does not stand apart here. Common sense will tell you that the more bows you sell the more failures will be reported, its basic math. What people don't realize is that many times the folks that hang on these websites tend to be more serious about archery than most. That being the case they tend to buy higher end equipment that is operating closer to the limit and experience more limb failures. PSE Nova's don't blow many limbs but just wait for that new 340 fps IBO model to have a good sized sample in the field. Bowtech will fix your bow as would Hoyt or Martin or ...............
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RE: Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
ORIGINAL: TerryM All bow companies experience about a 1-2% failure rate on limbs. Pretty well all the top companies have lifetime "non transferable" warranties also. So Bowtech does not stand apart here. Like right now, I know where I can get a commander for 500 dollars used very little. I want to jump on it, but I sure won't go for it, with a radical design, and no warranty at all. |
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My information comes from one of the biggest if not the biggest archery pro shop here in New Jersey, who is a dealer of Mathews, BowTech, Hoyt, PSE, Martin, Ross, Parker, Bear, and many others. His information comes 2 ways: What comes in for repairs or warranty work, and from informaton supplied from each company. Of course all of them have there share of problems, but BowTech has more then others, other then that they make a great product
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ORIGINAL: bigcountry I have never heard of the liberty having limb issues. I hear of the allegences and tributes in 05-06. I have a liberty with maybe 4000 shots thru it without issue. You didn't dry fire it did ya? Bowtech openly admitted that they had some limb constrction issues in 05-06. They are pretty good about sending new limbs. With that said, the warranty department CLAIMS that all the limbs for 2007 have been fixed. However, they either don't know, or just won't tell us what the problem was, or how they resolved it. However, he did get a guarentee that when they sent him the new 07 limbs he would not have another problem. If your 07 Liberty really has 07 limbs, then its the first Diamond I've heard issue of from the 07 line.... I know I've read about a few Tributes and Allys splitting 07 limbs... maybe the problem isn't really fixed..... |
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Of course all of them have there share of problems, but BowTech has more then others, other then that they make a great product |
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ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR Of course all of them have there share of problems, but BowTech has more then others, other then that they make a great product I know this is true from dealers that sell both! Of course I know a dealer in Arlington that would make up trash about Bowtech just because he's a flake and loves Mathews.. I am not going to mention any names, Ken Witt.:D |
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In my oppinion, all bow manufacturers have had problems with there limbs. Hoyt went for at least 5 years with broke limbs, and PSE couldnt make a bow that was worthy of shooting, Mathews came out with a big idler wheel bow and said damm, I just made the best bow on the market, but hell, anyone can shoot a mathews right.Darton even had problems with there limbs but now I can get 70lb limbs and get 107 lbs out of them with no problems.
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I have a bit of a update. After having the man at Gander Mtn. tell me he has had no luck with contacting Bowtech, we decided to do a refund. But there is a twist. He called me back about 3 hrs later and said that his boss had come in and said that Bowtech did indeed ship out the limbs on Tuesday. So, I'm happy to hear that they finally did make contact with Bowtech and things are looking better.
I really like the way this bow shoots. It has no shock or vibration at all. I can't wait to get back shooting. I'll post back when I get the bow back and shooting. Nick |
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ORIGINAL: NWA I have a bit of a update. After having the man at Gander Mtn. tell me he has had no luck with contacting Bowtech, we decided to do a refund. But there is a twist. He called me back about 3 hrs later and said that his boss had come in and said that Bowtech did indeed ship out the limbs on Tuesday. So, I'm happy to hear that they finally did make contact with Bowtech and things are looking better. I really like the way this bow shoots. It has no shock or vibration at all. I can't wait to get back shooting. I'll post back when I get the bow back and shooting. Nick Sounds like someone was yanking your chain. I've never had a problem with a dealer not being able to contact Bowtech for any reason.Not just anyone in the store cancontactBowtech without thedealer number.So I am sure the manager hadto do it,when he got around to it. That is why I don't deal with package stores. |
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Copy that Rev. I normally do not purchase items such as this from stores like that. But what can I say, I had a weak moment when I saw and handled this bow. Plus I just figured, if I have a problem i can handle it myself direct with the company. Well, that was WRONG. I must say that had i known that I had to go through Gander for service I would have NEVER made the purchase. But, all that said, and like I said before It really is a nice bow, I just wish I could handle the bumps in the road myself.
Nick |
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Bowtech has had problems with cracked limbs, I replaced 3 on my 2004 Liberty. I am sure this happens with other bows as well. However to act like bowtech is some great company is a joke! Their limbs are most likely lower grade materials. I own 2 bowtechs, I think the problem is vertical limbs, as I have not witnessed limb issues on their other bows. They need to make a better limb.
Actually Bowtech was trying to blame the issue on not using the bow press properly. I am not sure with other bow companies, as I have been shooting bowtech since 2003. But I found their customer service to a big PITA. The next bow I buy, probably next year,,, may not be a bowtech this time. I like their bows alot too...Ill have to research all the new bows next year. BTW, for those who have never heard of Bowtechs limb issues, Do a google search or even search this forum. There mant folks who have had issues. |
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I will definitely warn others before buying one of their bows. While I do indeed really like the bow, their Customer Service policy leaves a lot to be desired. I know that I will probably not buy any more products from them.
My brother was going to buy the same bow, but I told him to at least wait until I get this issue sorted out. Please don't get me wrong here, it is not the bow I'm very dissatisfied with, it's the lack of service and info they provide. Nick |
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ORIGINAL: BTDavis However to act like bowtech is some great company is a joke! I srongly dissagree with you, I can shoot anything I want, I choose to shoot the best, certainlythe company with the best warranty. To me Bowtech is no a joke. |
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All is good. For those who don't buy a Bowtech, it just means my next one will become mine that much sooner.:D
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RE: Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
Sounds like someone was yanking your chain. I've never had a problem with a dealer not being able to contact Bowtech for any reason.Not just anyone in the store cancontactBowtech without thedealer number.So I am sure the manager hadto do it,when he got around to it. That is why I don't deal with package stores I could very easily do the same thing about Mathews or Hoyt. I guarantee people would hop aboard and bash right along with me and agree with things I made up out of the blue. Talk to a professional and stay away from chain stores employing 17 year old kids who just want a paycheck on friday. |
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PA Buck HNTR, I said their POLICY leaves a lot to be desired. Also just because I'm new here does not mean I don't know anything about bows or archery. I came here for guidance and to voice my opinoin about how I feel, and I really dont appreciate your tone with me. So I guess I'll just move along. Sorry, if I upset you and hurt the way you feel about Bowtech. I have spoke with Jeff Baker ( Service Rep From Bowtech)on a few occasions about this bow. I still don't like the fact that I have to rely upon someone else to fix my bow.
Nick:) |
RE: Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
ORIGINAL: The Rev ORIGINAL: BTDavis However to act like bowtech is some great company is a joke! I srongly dissagree with you, I can shoot anything I want, I choose to shoot the best, certainlythe company with the best warranty. To me Bowtech is no a joke. BTW, you claim you shoot the best, which model bowtech do you shoot? And are you saying this is the best bow on the market as of today? And why are they a better product than Hoyt, matthews, ect....Thanks |
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ORIGINAL: BTDavis ORIGINAL: The Rev ORIGINAL: BTDavis However to act like bowtech is some great company is a joke! I srongly dissagree with you, I can shoot anything I want, I choose to shoot the best, certainlythe company with the best warranty. To me Bowtech is no a joke. BTW, you claim you shoot the best, which model bowtech do you shoot? And are you saying this is the best bow on the market as of today? And why are they a better product than Hoyt, matthews, ect....Thanks There has to be come kind of control. I see many yoyo's abuse bows and expect to get a new one free. Come on man use some brain space to think about it! I wonder how how many limbs were messed up due to dumb @- -people using too light arrows, because they want to be fast. Oh, there might be some answers. If youcould see some of the bows I'v seen coming into bowshops. Don't tell me shooters don't abuse their bows. Someone has to check them out first. As far as not having your bow during hunting season, that's not bowtech's fault. I know dealers that will give you a bow to use until yours comes back. That is not bowtechs problem. If you worry about that, get a back up bow. DUH! As far as what I shoot, that's none of your business, it doens't matter, they are allgood bows.I said I bowtech was the best company to deal with, and I stand behind that. |
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Rev, with all do respect you are a true pimp for bowtech, its none of my business what you shoot? They are all good...I wouldn't take your word on anything. I would never buy a bow off of you either. Your a perfect example of what one can expect if their limb breaks. Blame the the shooter/customer first.
Oh, how about the bowshop stock some limbs, or doesn't bowtech want to do that. Maybe for the liberty and some of the more popular limb breaking models. Oh and your remark,"Come on man use some brain space to think about it!" how about a little honesty out of you. You sound like a politician, I'll bet you vote for Hillary  |
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ORIGINAL: BTDavis You sound like a politician, I'll bet you vote for Hillary
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And your right, some dealers should have extra limbs, but you know what that means, they would have to dish out some cash..
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RE: Cracked a limb on my 07 Liberty
ORIGINAL: BTDavis Rev, with all do respect you are a true pimp for bowtech, its none of my business what you shoot? They are all good...I wouldn't take your word on anything. I would never buy a bow off of you either. Your a perfect example of what one can expect if their limb breaks. Blame the the shooter/customer first. Oh, how about the bowshop stock some limbs, or doesn't bowtech want to do that. Maybe for the liberty and some of the more popular limb breaking models. Oh and your remark,"Come on man use some brain space to think about it!" how about a little honesty out of you. You sound like a politician, I'll bet you vote for Hillary
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Big Country, The Hillary thing was a joke my friend, jk. I do not feel the need to slam Rev as you put it,...No hurt feelings here...Rev is claiming he can shoot anything he wants and claims BT is the best. I want to know why?
Rev, I really I would like to hear your thoughts on what the BT is the best and which ones you like or shoot. I would probably buy the Alligence if I were to buy a bow today. I like the Liberty for hunting as it has a nice smooth draw. I wish it was faster but it is a comfortable bow to shoot. |
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ORIGINAL: BTDavis Rev is claiming he can shoot anything he wants and claims BT is the best. I want to know why? Rev, I really I would like to hear your thoughts on what the BT is the best and which ones you like or shoot. I likethe companyBowtech forwho they are and what they do. They are hugesupporters of our American troops. I know I work some of the events with Bowtech.Here is a pic of Jay Fondren wholost his legs in Iraq. Bowtech gave him a guradian fully loaded with about 1,200.00 dollars worth of goodies as a token of their appreciation for what he did. This was this months at Texas Trophy Hunters Extravaganza in Ft. Worth. During the PBR they sell braclets for abuck, and have a raffle for a new guadian, all the money goes toGI's families. As a Viet Namvet I remember the welcome we received when I came back home. When I see a company go out of their way to help our vets, I am on board. We are (Ausie-guy and I ) taking Jay on his first hog hunt in three weeks along with afilm crew. Russ and Iare going to workclose for Hunts for Heros www.showofsupport.org and I guarantee you that Bowtech will help in any way they can. As far as what I shoot, I shoot an o4 pro 40 dually for competition, and the guardian is my choicefor hunting bow. Nothing can come close to it. It is quiet, smooth and what an awesome bow with the binary cam system. You asked so this is my two cents worth.  |
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Bob just so ya know I've got 2 cans of whup a$$ ready for the shoot tomorrow!:D
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