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pastorkhris 08-11-2007 10:36 PM

Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
I posted this in another site first but figured this one my be more helpful.

I know that there has been a post about this recently, but I sure cannot find it - so here goes:

I have a MZE on my 2006 Hoyt PowerTec. I purchased the Hoyt specific brand of MZE and I installed just like they said. I can get the arrow to fly straight when I do I always clip one of the veins on the side of the rest. I have tried everything: twisting the nocks, moving the rest left and right and more up and down on the draw - but for me to get the arrow to fly straight that rest has to be in a certain position and if it is it is hitting my vein on the left side (cock feather up) towards the rest and away from the bow every single time (I put lipstick on th vein and it was rubbed off my the rest.

Now it is only making a small amount of contact so maybe I should not worry about it (I tend to be neurotic about these kinds of things). But I am about to switch to blazers with this years arrows and I am afraid the problem will only be worse - a little help would be GREAT!

Mike from Texas 08-12-2007 09:25 AM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
Have you tried shooting cock vane down? Most applications recommend shooting cock vane down, not up. That is why there is a groove in the bottom of the rest arm.

Paul L Mohr 08-12-2007 09:30 AM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
The groove in the arm is to center the arrow in the cradle, not to let the fletch go through.

Without looking at your set up I can't really tell you what is happening. Somebody else on here might though, there are some that have lots of experience with this rest and how it reacts to different bows. This rest will not work well on all bows. You have some sort of a timing issue and the rest is not dropping fast enough is my guess.

I have a bowtech Might Might and I can't get the muzzy to work on my bow either.

Paul

bigcountry 08-12-2007 10:31 AM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
Sounds like it needs to drop faster.

Old/New 08-12-2007 11:32 AM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
I have no idea if I can help but I had a similar problem after a bow shop installed a ze on my Liberty. I re-installed it myself and used a different hole other than what's recommended. Try using the second hole rather than the first for the linkage or vice -versa. Can't hurt!

Good luck!

tacogrande 08-12-2007 02:21 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
I have the same problem on my vulcan. I had one vulcan 29.5 draw and a mze and it worked perfect, now I got a new 30 inch draw and mze and fletches hit no matter how I lay them. It is setup same holes as 29.5 was. It acts like it dosn't drop fast enough, what coulkd I do to speed that up. I have wore the fletches off my arrows it hits so bad.

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bigcountry 08-12-2007 05:34 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
Make sure that nut that holds the arm is place is not too tight or too loose. Too loose and rest is not solid left to right (horizontal). Too tight and won't fall quick enough.

One thing I did on one bow is to raise the rest as high as possible for clearance. I love and hate the MZE.

early in 08-12-2007 05:42 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
Get a Wisker Biscuit, and forget about it.:D:D

Greg / MO 08-12-2007 10:25 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
Just got in from working the Bass Pro Fall Classic in Springfield for Bowtech, and I'm about worn out, so I apologize for skimming through and answering rather quickly... but, have you tried crossing the cables above the cable guard? There's some bows that Muzzy recommends doing this on to produce a quicker drop, such as Diamond's Black Ice...

Cougar Mag 08-12-2007 10:54 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
I imagine you have already tried this as well but, you might take the linkage arm off and add 1/2 turn to lengthen it. If that doesn't work subtract 1/2 turn of the linkage arm. I had a slight problem with mine on my Bowtech while tuning and 1/2 turn added fixed it. By the way, I shoot mine cockvane up too.

pastorkhris 08-13-2007 12:14 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
I do not think that it is a problem with rest not falling fast enough - it is that the left hen feather (cock feather up) always hits on the left hand side of the rest - but when I try to move the rest more to the left my arrow starts kicking sideways. I have tried twisting the nock so that the fletchings are in different places but it always hits some part of the rest when it is in the right postion to create a true arrow flight.

bigcountry 08-13-2007 12:27 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 

ORIGINAL: pastorkhris

I do not think that it is a problem with rest not falling fast enough - it is that the left hen feather (cock feather up) always hits on the left hand side of the rest - but when I try to move the rest more to the left my arrow starts kicking sideways. I have tried twisting the nock so that the fletchings are in different places but it always hits some part of the rest when it is in the right postion to create a true arrow flight.
So what your saying is the rest is not getting out of the way of the fletching? Have you seen how fast it falls? Within 2", 4", or more at release?

yajsab 08-13-2007 12:59 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
Simple solution since it's not hitting the bottom. Try rotate the cock-vane slight to the right. If it still hit the left side of the hook, just find out exactly where it touches and give it some sanding. It won't hurt anything since it's on the side.

HeadHunter66 08-13-2007 02:02 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
Make sure you have the rest set so that it is below the shelf at brace height. (This can be done by turning the turnbuckle out/in as appropriate.) I've had this problem on occasion and was able to tune it out by adjusting the turnbuckle and/or moving the restto the leftslightly, for a right hand shooter.(You will have to check the stop screw to make sure it is not stopping the travel to early.) I have the PC 100(?) and I use thebolt hole closest to the string, using the second hole in the rest so the rest rises close to the shelf. Been using the MZE for a lot of years on several different bows and once set up they are bullet proof. Love 'em.

Redneck Bowhunter 08-13-2007 02:43 PM

RE: Clearance Problems with a MZE
 
What arrow length do you use with your MZE?



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