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Bols 08-01-2007 06:40 PM

I hate doing this. . .
 
From the title, you have to know I hate asking a question that leaves alot up to personal preference. . .but I just need a few opinions:

I am currently shooting an '06 Trykon (29", 62 lbs.) and really have thought things over when it comes to hunting arrows. In the past I have traditionally shot light arrows. I am thinking I want to push the grain weight up for hunting this year. Along with heavier arrows, I want to put FOC % somewhere around 12-15.

For this, I am willing to bump my BH grain weight to 125 +, shoot a little stiffer spined arrow, cut longer than what I am currently shooting.

This endeavor has me torn between two arrow choices, the 340 spined Easton FMJ's or the 3-60 Easton A/C/C's. Heck, I would even consider the Gold Tip 7555.

I hate throwing this out there, but what should I go with to optimize what I want out of my arrow?

Vanes will most likely be 2" Blazers or Feathers, I will most likely have a wrap on the back as well. Nocks will be standard issue for whatever arrow I shoot.

Any help will be appreciated.


Rick James 08-01-2007 07:07 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
Try the goldtip CAA. They are a carbon/aluminum very very similar to the ACC with the same tolerances, better components, and $30 cheaper per dozen. They are new, but I have 3x dozen now and love mine. All weighed in at under 1 grain tolerance and all spun perfectly. Add in the fact that you can add weight to the back of the insert to get perfect spine and they are much more tunable now than anything else out there in this class. They come in the same spine deflections as ACC's from 3-28 to 3-71. I am shooting 350's which are comparable to the 3-60's you were thinking of and they weigh in at 433 grains with a wrap and 3x blazers with pin nocks, inserts, and 100 grain points.

Bols 08-01-2007 07:15 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
RJ, do you know your FOC off hand with those?

And what length are they cut to?

I might try to get a 125 grain head to work, since I would be extremely overspined with 100 grain tips.

Rick James 08-01-2007 07:18 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 

ORIGINAL: Bols

RJ, do you know your FOC off hand with those?

And what length are they cut to?

I might try to get a 125 grain head to work, since I would be extremely overspined with 100 grain tips.
Let me know what your setup is and I will run it through OnTarget 2. I need your exact arrow length, whether there is a wrap or not, and this should be it.

Finch 08-01-2007 07:21 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
I glad you posted this Dave. I have also been thinking of upgrading my arrows this year to a stiffer spine. I am slightly underspined with the 55/75 GT's. Those Goldtp CAA's sound good. Might have to look into those.

BTW: What did you ever find out about your injury? My appointment to the orthorpedic is tomorrow to have my shoulder checked out.

Rick James 08-01-2007 07:32 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
My suggestion to get what you are looking for is to crank the bow up to 64lbs and not use a wrap. The wrap will kill what you are looking to do with FOC.

At 64lbs, with a 29.5" CAA 350 shaft, with 125 grain heads, no wrap (throws spine and FOC off), blazers, standard pin nocks that come with it, and assuming you have the 80% letoff zephyr cam......

You would end up with 11.32% FOC, with a 464 grain arrow going about 269fps. OnTarget2 lists the spine as just about perfect here too.



Bols 08-01-2007 07:48 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
Duc, glad it helped someone else out besides myself. I really hate asking others to do my "dirty work". . .but I needed a little counsel. The arm is doing okay. . .I still know it would hurt to draw back my bow. . .so I don't even try. It is killing me to wait around. . .I really hope I can start to work it out sometime next week, then a few weeks later, start drawing my bow.

Matt, thanks a bunch. I appreciate you running this through OT2.

'06 Trykon
29", 62 lbs.
G5 Meta peep on the string 1/4" I believe, that should be all since I am using an STS at the current moment.
Arrow length: 29" (can be adjusted if necessary, nothing less than 28")
Tip weight: 125 + (In that ballpark)
Out back: CAA nocking system (whatever that may be), wrap, and Blazers for the time being (the only other vanes I would try out would be short feathers or the 2" Quickspin ST Hunters)

Do you need anything else?


Bols 08-01-2007 07:51 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
Sorry, didn't refresh in time. . .



Finch 08-01-2007 07:56 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
Well, hopefully you heal up in time for season. Just take it easy in the mean time.

Bols 08-01-2007 08:23 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
Thanks Duc, hope everything goes well for you.

RJ, I sent you a PM. I appreciate the help!

ArrowMike 08-01-2007 09:34 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
Dave
I see you found something to spend your new found $100. This year I am also adding weight to my arrows. I am going with ST AXIS wraped blazed and 125 gr tip. I should finish up around 440-450 gr.

Straightarrow 08-02-2007 04:02 AM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 

I hate throwing this out there, but what should I go with to optimize what I want out of my arrow?
Since your goal is to increase weight and get a higher FOC, definitely skip the wraps, and use feathers. Feathers are much lighter than vanes and they will make a significant difference in FOC. Don't be opposed to putting more weight on the front. An extra 20-30 grains will do almost nothing to your trajectory, but will make for a more stable arrow that has less tendency to deflect or plane. Plan this before you cut your arrows and you can easily get them to the length that allows for perfect spine.

brucelanthier 08-02-2007 09:39 AM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
Something to think about: You could use a 50 grain insert to increase the tip weight and really move your FOC up more towards the 15% range. That may change the spine that you need or maybe you could just add length to the arrow.

ijimmy 08-02-2007 12:08 PM

RE: I hate doing this. . .
 
Bols , im shooting a 28 inch axis fmj arrow 340 spine with 125 grain muzzy's and love them they are fling great for me , Im shooting between 63-65 pounds .


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