No room for 40yd pin
 

How do I fix the problem? I'd really like to practice out to 40 yards but the sight has no room for the pin. I have 20 and 30 now. The bow had new string on it and sat for two years due to work related issues. Now I dialed it in and had to take out the 40 yd pin just so the 30 yd pin would fit. Is this related to the rest height? I had clearance problems and fooled with the arrow rest today. Also fooled with spring tension on rest.

The bow shoots 2 1/2" bullseye at 20 and 30yds now.

Thanks in advance. I was ready to just buy a new bow but will give it one more chance. Thanks in advance!

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

I'm not sure I follow......Are you saying your 30 yard pin is all the way at the bottom of the pin housing, and you don't have room for a 40? I would still suspect a tuning/anchor issue.....Somehow we've got to get your pins up....

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Yes all the way at the bottom with no adjustment left in the sight or mounting bracket.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

What kind of Bow?

What kind of Sight?

How many FPS are you shooting?

Some more details would be nice. Thanks!

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

I am guessing you are shooting a release directly off the string which clips on below the nock. Am I right?

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Rick's thinking along the same lines I am... Also, can you move your 20-yard pin higher to make more room under it?

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

If your using a peep sight you may have the peep way to high. It may have slipped from its original place. If that is the case you just need to lower it. You might want to first see where your nock is set. If it slipped upward, which can easily happen, it would cause your arrow to shoot on a downward angle.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

Shooting Martin Jaguar 55-70# set at 55-60, sight says spike on it, Tiger Tuff rest, 2216 Lite XX78 Super Slam, 29" draw and yes I'm shooting release uder the knock. As far as fps I have no idea but if I had to guess I'd say low 200's.

If I move the 20yard pin higher it would become a 10yd pin? I had this problem before I thought. I did have the bow restrung and bought the above arrows that are different than the oringinal ones. They were XX75 2216 Lite. I think its time for a new pro shop!

Yes it has a peep sight held in the center of three strings.

Thanks to reading this forum I got the bow shooting much better. Before I had zero confidence in the bow and that is exactly way I did'nt hunt the last two seasons.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

Is this your sight? This is a Vital Bow Gear Spike sight.If so,you should be able to take the screws out of the side where the sight is monted to the mount bracket and be able to move the whole housing down and readjust your pins and be able to get the 40 yard pin set.



If this is not your sight,yours is probably similar and can still be adjusted up or down.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

Moving the peep site down would make him shoot even lower. Sounds to me like he anchors really high on his face. He needs to be anchoring with his index finger under his jaw bone. This will make it so that he has to adjust his pins up and then he will be able to get his 40 yard pin on easily. Before I started using a d loop , I always shot with my release attached under the arrow and I had no problem getting a pin out to 60 yards with room to spare under it.

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No doubt that lowering the anchor point would solve the problem, but I also doubt you have to go that low. It depends on the face structure of each person as to what will work. Where ever you end up, it has to be a solid anchor that is easily repeatable.

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Sorry had problems logging on last night. Tfox my site is bottomed out. It was setup that way when I bought the bow.

Do you guys think my form changed from taking two seasons off? I'll record my actions and see exactly where I'm achoring. I believe I achor with my index fingers first nuckle the bottom of my ear lobe.

Thanks for tring to help.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

I've had the problem before and it was my peep sight was to low on the string. I just raised my rest this past weekend and it totally raised my sight up. Keep in mind your nock point will need to be raised too. But I bet that changes your sight so you can make room for your 40 yard pin.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

So I went to the place I bought the bow about 5 years ago. The guy checks my draw weight and states the string might have stretched. It was 55lbs and he took it up to 61lbs. I got home shot it and hardly any difference at all.

So it sounds like the peep or my knock and a new shop! He also said "I would never shoot 40yds with alumium arrows". Why not? I had carbon and went back to alumium. Heading down to another shop shortly.

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Sounds like a completely ignorant doofus to whom I wouldn't take a darn thing of mine to get worked on, nor buy anything from.

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Just got back from another shop. Closed at 5pm. Wtf. Looks like I'm going to make a 1+hr trip to the best shop in the state. They cater to the working man. M-F opens 12noon til 9pm! If I walk away disgusted from this place my bowhuning days a numbered!

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

If your index finger is at the bottom of your ear lobe then you are anchoring high on your face. Anchor your index finger on your jaw bone and you will have all the room you need for longer distance pins plus you will have a lot solider and more repeatable anchor point than what you are now using.

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I tried achoring under the jaw bone just to see what happens. The bow was aimed at the sky! My bow string comes right to the corner of my mouth.

If I kew how do do the work I'd just do it myself.

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When you lower your anchor point you need to raise your peep and your sight. When the guy put twists in your string to raise the draw weight he could have lowered the peep even more.

Raise the peep and the sight with the lower anchor point.

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I'd take it to a different shop. Have the guy look at your shooting form and anchor and all and make sure the peep is correctly aligned. I guess make sure the nock is at the right place and the rest is correctly adjusted. Even make sure the bow is in completely in tune and the cam(s?) are timed (and synchronized) if you want.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

Forget about the peep and sight for now. Everyone is talking about different stuff and we don't even know if your bow is set correctly to begin with.

First you need to check the level of your arrow when it is attached to the string and sitting on the rest. The nock of your arrow should be just slightly above level about 1/8th of an inchand the arrow should be crossing directly in front of the rest mounting hole. If it is pointing way below level then you need to either raise your rest or lower your nocking point. This will cause the problems you are having.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

Good point. I got my son's Fred Bear Element from the archery shop "all set up" with the arrow resting about 1/4" below the Berger hole. Similar problem with the sight adjustment.

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

Finally I made some progress! I went back to the shop that closed and 5pm and dropped off the bow. It was mypeep sightwhich is now set so its ajustable so I can re-sight in my pins. Then he'll lock her down. He also the string they used was crap and the bow needed lots of work. He showed me how the timing was off and stuff. I'm going to sight it in and bring it back hopefully today or by the weekend.

The shop was very busy! I already like this shop 10x better! Live and learn I guess.

How easy is it to time a dual cam bow. Do you need a press? I'm going to have this shop do eveything but would like to learn how to do the work myself.

I'll keep ya'll updated on how things work out. Hoofers

RE: No room for 40yd pin
 

Glad to hear that the new place is better.

You will need a press to adjust the string/cable to correct timing. A Bowmaster portable press works well.