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Dubbya 05-21-2007 09:19 PM

Leveling a sight...
 
Hey guys, I put my new Spott Hog (real deal) on my Vectrix tonight and I really like it. The only problem is that I feel like the level isn't really, well... level. When I'm at full draw, I feel like I have to can't the bow to the left to get the bubble centered up.

I took the sight off the bow and checked it against a framing level and it showed to be out of level. Then I held the mounting bracket flush to a corner of the wall (that I checked to be level) and again it showed the bubble to be out of level.

Any ideas here? I know this is a simple issue... not sure what's going on here.

bow_hunter44 05-21-2007 11:47 PM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 
I sure hope you get some responses to this post. It sounds like a good question to me. One which I wish I knew the answer to!

Washington Hunter 05-21-2007 11:49 PM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 
Third axis issue?

gibblet 05-22-2007 05:02 AM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 
there ought to be a way on that sight to adjust 2nd and 3rd axis. did it come w/ directions?

BGfisher 05-22-2007 06:30 AM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 
I just looked at my Real Deal (older one) and there are no adjustments for 2nd or 3rd axis. You have two choices IMO. Shoot it as is or make a phone call to Spot Hogg. Oh, there may be a third choice. Shim the mount on the riser. A phone call would be my choice. You paid good money for quality and should get it.

Rick James 05-22-2007 06:33 AM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 
I don't think the real deal does have 2nd axis adjustment, I would call Len first and ask him if you should contact Spot Hogg directly, or if you should allow him to do it. A lot of the time dealers like to handle this stuff internally and can sometimes get it resolved faster for you than the manufacturer can. I would give Len first shot at making this right........

Dubbya 05-22-2007 06:49 AM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 

ORIGINAL: Rick James

I don't think the real deal does have 2nd axis adjustment, I would call Len first and ask him if you should contact Spot Hogg directly, or if you should allow him to do it. A lot of the time dealers like to handle this stuff internally and can sometimes get it resolved faster for you than the manufacturer can. I would give Len first shot at making this right........
Thanks guys, no this sight doesn't have 2nd or 3rd axis adjustment that's why I was somewhat confused. I thought about shimming the mounting plate but you shouldn't have to do that on a "quality" sight.



HuntingBry 05-22-2007 07:20 AM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 
For sights that don't have 2nd axis adjustment I hang the bow from a hook with a string and plumb hanging from the bottom limb and make it perpendicular to the floor. While doing this and making sure the bow is level with the plumb and see if the bubble level on the sight is correct. If it isn't I will use adhesive silencing foam or felt to shim the sight until it is level. I like doing this anyway because it will help eliminate vibration. This will get your 2nd axis level. To do 3rd axis you need a sight that has that capability.

KodiakArcher 05-22-2007 11:38 AM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 

ORIGINAL: dwd2001
Thanks guys, no this sight doesn't have 2nd or 3rd axis adjustment that's why I was somewhat confused. I thought about shimming the mounting plate but you shouldn't have to do that on a "quality" sight.
You shouldn't have to do it with a $1000 scope on a $1500 rifle either but the fact of the matter is that sometimes you do, not often but it happens. It may not be a problem with the sight, it may be the riser of the bow or the mount holes not being true.

dandbuck 05-22-2007 01:14 PM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 
I'm gonna step out on a limb here, but who cares right? Who actually uses that tiny little level? In a hunting situation, are you really looking at that tiny thing to determine level? I mean,at 25yrds, how far off can you be if you "guess" level by holding your bow what you think feels and looks level? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I really don't see the point in that tiny level at all. If my sight did not have it, it would not matter to me at all.

DandBuck

gibblet 05-22-2007 01:32 PM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 
i love my level. i train myself to it.

TFOX 05-22-2007 03:39 PM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 

ORIGINAL: dandbuck

I'm gonna step out on a limb here, but who cares right? Who actually uses that tiny little level? In a hunting situation, are you really looking at that tiny thing to determine level? I mean,at 25yrds, how far off can you be if you "guess" level by holding your bow what you think feels and looks level? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I really don't see the point in that tiny level at all. If my sight did not have it, it would not matter to me at all.

DandBuck

I tend to agree that shooting a deer from 25 yards in a hunting situation that the level is irrelevant BUT I look at it when coming to anchor just as I do everytime I shoot my bow.It is part of my shot sequence.On a deer,I may not take the extra time to make sure it is perfect but I do look at it.I am talking about milliseconds here.


I do believe they are a valuable asset to a bow andare quite valuable in the tuning process and will help an archer/hunter become much more efficient with his or her equipiment.


Once you learn to draw level,you will be much closer to level everytime you draw the bow,even in a hunting situation.



I agree with the rest about the sight in question.You could easily shim it and get it right but it is a new,fairly expensive sight and I would want it as close to perfect as I could get.

Dubbya 05-22-2007 07:16 PM

RE: Leveling a sight...
 

ORIGINAL: dandbuck

I'm gonna step out on a limb here, but who cares right? Who actually uses that tiny little level? In a hunting situation, are you really looking at that tiny thing to determine level? I mean,at 25yrds, how far off can you be if you "guess" level by holding your bow what you think feels and looks level? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I really don't see the point in that tiny level at all. If my sight did not have it, it would not matter to me at all.

DandBuck
Well, I'm gonna step out on a limb here and say, "most of us care." If we didn't care we wouldn't use it. There's no question about whether or not canting your bow will affect your windage... hence traditional archery. But I really appreciate your relevant information on leveling a sight.;)




ORIGINAL: TFOX

I tend to agree that shooting a deer from 25 yards in a hunting situation that the level is irrelevant BUT I look at it when coming to anchor just as I do everytime I shoot my bow.It is part of my shot sequence.On a deer,I may not take the extra time to make sure it is perfect but I do look at it.I am talking about milliseconds here.


I do believe they are a valuable asset to a bow andare quite valuable in the tuning process and will help an archer/hunter become much more efficient with his or her equipiment.


Once you learn to draw level,you will be much closer to level everytime you draw the bow,even in a hunting situation.



I agree with the rest about the sight in question.You could easily shim it and get it right but it is a new,fairly expensive sight and I would want it as close to perfect as I could get.
That's pretty much exactly how I "use" my level as well TFOX. I may just shim it because I'm really tired of dealing with Spot Hogg altogether, althought I really do like the sight.



I checked both of the sights that came in (one for a buddy) and both of them are truly "out oflevel" I checked them both on and off the bow and also checked 2 other sights on the bow. Both of these sights were fine (both on and off), so I know that it isn't the riser of my Vectrix.

I appreciateall of your input guys.


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