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Robin Woods.. 05-06-2007 07:40 PM

RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 
Has anybody tried the new rage expandable broadhead for deer ??
[ul][*]How do they fly ? Do they really fly like field tips at long distances ?[*]How do they react to bone contact ?[*]Lots of publicity on entry hole, but how is the exit hole ?? do they stay open all the way ?[*]What did you use 2 or 3 blades ?what weight?[/ul]
I presently shoot with the devastating muzzy's.. but at long range they tend to drift...

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Have fun shooting !



5 shot 05-07-2007 03:23 AM

RE: RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 
they did well in my tests. They are sharp, accurate and penetrate well for a large head. They are strong enough to get the job done, but not nearly as durable as your muzzys. I did use a 2 blade 100 grn rage last year to shoot a medium size doe. They results were outstanding, especially considering the type of shot. I do have a full review on my website if your interested.

Roskoe 05-07-2007 05:57 PM

RE: RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 
I haven't killed any with mine yet, but the two blade 100 grain Rage fly just like field points. They don't open up going through the air, but will open quickly enough on contactto make a 2" slot through a piece of cardboard.

drhntr178 05-08-2007 01:41 PM

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I shot four deer with 3 blades last year and none went more than 50yds. They flew just like field points and the damage they do is amazing. BUT as 5 shot said they arent the most durable broadhead out there. But I by broadheads to kill deer very fast, I'm more interested in that than how long they last.

Buck Magnet 05-08-2007 01:56 PM

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Holy crap, its 5shot.... where have you been?

TFOX 05-08-2007 10:43 PM

RE: RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 
5 shot,how,iyo,how would the 3 blade rage heads performin penetration as compared to a Rocket Steelhead.

I realize the Rage 3 blade are a little bigger in cutting diameterbut my Steelheads are jamming in the ground so a little bigger head may not be out of the questionandI am contemplating the BiggerRage for next year.

YooperMike 05-09-2007 07:23 AM

RE: RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 
The only experience I have with them is on a coyote, and it wasn't good. Shot the coyote and hit him well. He went and layed down about 50 yards away, so I just left him, thinking I would pick him up after the morning's hunt. Well, I look over again about 20 minutes later, and there he is walking across the field. Never did find him, but the boradhead was destroyed. All of the blades were missing and the leading blade was broken off as well. Definitely not a very durable head.

bowtech die hard 05-09-2007 10:42 PM

RE: RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 
100 grns. Monster entry and exit. Insane amounts of blood. Superb flight out to 50 yards, which was as far as I shot those. The absolute best broadheads I've ever used. oh yeah it was a 2 blade.

HuntingBry 05-10-2007 10:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: YooperMike

The only experience I have with them is on a coyote, and it wasn't good. Shot the coyote and hit him well. He went and layed down about 50 yards away, so I just left him, thinking I would pick him up after the morning's hunt. Well, I look over again about 20 minutes later, and there he is walking across the field. Never did find him, but the boradhead was destroyed. All of the blades were missing and the leading blade was broken off as well. Definitely not a very durable head.
Mike, were you using the 2 blade or 3 blade?

Primitive Weapon 05-10-2007 10:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: Robin Woods..

Has anybody tried the new rage expandable broadhead for deer ?? [ul][*]How do they fly ? Do they really fly like field tips at long distances ?[*]How do they react to bone contact ?[*]Lots of publicity on entry hole, but how is the exit hole ?? do they stay open all the way ?[*]What did you use 2 or 3 blades ?what weight?[/ul]
I presently shoot with the devastating muzzy's.. but at long range they tend to drift...

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Have fun shooting !
I won't use anything else. I shoot the 100gr 2-blade and they do fly like my field points, at least out to 40yds (at least the included practice tip does).

I have only taken 1 deer with them, a doe, and it reacted well to bone contact. Upon entry, it put about a half inch slice into the top of the left shoulder, broke a rib on entry and upon exit and then stuck in the ground.

When I retrieved the arrow, the blades were not bent and if it hadn't been full of hair, meat, and bone, it would have collapsed into it's pre-flight form.

Once I cleaned it up, it's fully functional again and back in my quiver. I'll see if I can find my pix of the entry and exit holes.

Primitive Weapon 05-10-2007 10:35 AM

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Entry...


Primitive Weapon 05-10-2007 10:36 AM

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Exit....


Primitive Weapon 05-10-2007 10:39 AM

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This is probably my favorite pic. This is exactly how I found her after about a 35yd run. She slammed into a tree just to the left of where she's laying.

I was shocked at the amount of bleeding.....



drhntr178 05-10-2007 04:56 PM

RE: RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 

ORIGINAL: YooperMike

The only experience I have with them is on a coyote, and it wasn't good. Shot the coyote and hit him well. He went and layed down about 50 yards away, so I just left him, thinking I would pick him up after the morning's hunt. Well, I look over again about 20 minutes later, and there he is walking across the field. Never did find him, but the boradhead was destroyed. All of the blades were missing and the leading blade was broken off as well. Definitely not a very durable head.
I find it very hard to believe that you hit a coyote "well," (which I would intrepret as a lung and/or heart) with any broadhead and it layed down and then walked off w/o you recovering it. I would say your shot wasnt as good as you thought.

Roskoe 05-10-2007 05:56 PM

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I don't know . . . . coyotes can be nearly beyond belief in terms of will to live. I shot one once with a .300 Winchester while elk hunting. He collapsed in a snowy meadow - didn't even flinch. Figured I would keep hunting and pick him up on the way back to camp. When I got back to the meadow, there were his tracks in the snow - where he had gotten up and walked off. In the snow, I found chunks of rib bones and all kinds of bright red blood where the bullet had blown through him. Never found him.

YooperMike 05-11-2007 10:59 AM

RE: RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 

ORIGINAL: drhntr178


ORIGINAL: YooperMike

The only experience I have with them is on a coyote, and it wasn't good. Shot the coyote and hit him well. He went and layed down about 50 yards away, so I just left him, thinking I would pick him up after the morning's hunt. Well, I look over again about 20 minutes later, and there he is walking across the field. Never did find him, but the boradhead was destroyed. All of the blades were missing and the leading blade was broken off as well. Definitely not a very durable head.
I find it very hard to believe that you hit a coyote "well," (which I would intrepret as a lung and/or heart) with any broadhead and it layed down and then walked off w/o you recovering it. I would say your shot wasnt as good as you thought.
I didn't see you there, but I could be wrong. Trust me, it was a good shot. I know yotes are tough, but the broadhead failed as well. Like I said, it was completely broken apart. Sorry if this doesn't correlate with your info. It is MY experience. I shoot slick tricks currently and don't see myself switching until something better for ME comes on the market. BTW, I was using the 3 blade heads, someone had aksed earlier.

HuntingBry 05-11-2007 12:33 PM

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BTW, I was using the 3 blade heads, someone had aksed earlier.
That's interesting. I had wondered with this broadhead design if having the 3 blades would weaken the ferrule because the third blade would obviously take up more space. Were the blades broken, the ferrule, or both?

BTM 05-13-2007 02:02 PM

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I once blasted a 'yote with a 22-250, and he left more blood on the ground than an elk. After 200 yds of a great blood trail, I had to quit because of rain. I didn't think THREE coyotes could've contained that much blood.

Matt / PA 05-14-2007 07:47 AM

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I didn't see you there, but I could be wrong. Trust me, it was a good shot. I know yotes are tough, but the broadhead failed as well. Like I said, it was completely broken apart. Sorry if this doesn't correlate with your info. It is MY experience. I shoot slick tricks currently and don't see myself switching until something better for ME comes on the market. BTW, I was using the 3 blade heads, someone had aksed earlier.
Interesting..........if you watch the new Drury Videos (including Jay Gregory's Whitetail Obsession) they are all shooting the Rage head now. The interesting part is that whenever they cut away to a shot of the arrow or you see it in a sequence it looks like they all use the 2 blade?
These videos have some of the QUICKEST bloodiest kills I've seen on film ever and the performance of these heads looks really impressive.

I heard multiple reports last year from guys testing these heads that the 3 blade was a problem waiting to happen. The blades were binding on each other, not opening etc etc. but everything I heard about the 2 blade was OMG [:-]type good stuff.

I almost knew you were going to say 3 blade before you wrote it for this reason.

YooperMike 05-15-2007 11:00 AM

RE: RAGE BROADHEAD FLIGHT + PENETRATION DAMAGE ??
 

ORIGINAL: HuntingBry


BTW, I was using the 3 blade heads, someone had aksed earlier.
That's interesting. I had wondered with this broadhead design if having the 3 blades would weaken the ferrule because the third blade would obviously take up more space. Were the blades broken, the ferrule, or both?
The ferrule was not broken, just the blades. Had the ferrule been broken, I would say the heads have WAY more problems than already discussed.

YooperMike 05-15-2007 11:02 AM

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I saw the Drury's using them too. Very possibly could be the 2-blade they are using. I know my good friend is using them on turks right now and i'll report back when he gets home.

drhntr178 05-15-2007 12:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: YooperMike


ORIGINAL: drhntr178


ORIGINAL: YooperMike

The only experience I have with them is on a coyote, and it wasn't good. Shot the coyote and hit him well. He went and layed down about 50 yards away, so I just left him, thinking I would pick him up after the morning's hunt. Well, I look over again about 20 minutes later, and there he is walking across the field. Never did find him, but the boradhead was destroyed. All of the blades were missing and the leading blade was broken off as well. Definitely not a very durable head.
I find it very hard to believe that you hit a coyote "well," (which I would intrepret as a lung and/or heart) with any broadhead and it layed down and then walked off w/o you recovering it. I would say your shot wasnt as good as you thought.
I didn't see you there, but I could be wrong. Trust me, it was a good shot. I know yotes are tough, but the broadhead failed as well. Like I said, it was completely broken apart. Sorry if this doesn't correlate with your info. It is MY experience. I shoot slick tricks currently and don't see myself switching until something better for ME comes on the market. BTW, I was using the 3 blade heads, someone had aksed earlier.
yoopermike, it is almost impossible to tell where you actually hit unless you had a video a camera or you recover him and see for yourself. An arrow goes thru an animal in a fraction of a second and many times our perception is wrong. I'm not trying to convince you to use any brand of braodhead just pointing out that you cant state exactly where you hit in the previoussituation.

northwoods 05-15-2007 02:57 PM

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I used the 3-blades version last year and loved them on deer. However I went on a hog hunt in jan and out of four arrows I had 2 of the ferules break in side of the pig. They completley snapped. I have heard that the 2-blade is supposed to be much tougher.

I never had a problem with them opening properly though.

I will only use my 3-blade rages on turkey from now on and have gone back to fixed blade broadheads for this year.

Zach


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