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Coga07 04-25-2007 10:10 AM

Rests
 
What is the best type of arrow rest drop away or not

tmeservey 04-25-2007 01:04 PM

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For hunting the whisker biscut is still the king.

Paul L Mohr 04-25-2007 03:04 PM

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A prong rest with a spring blade launcher is what most of the pro target archers use. I don't know that I would want to use one for hunting though.

Drop a ways work well, especially with skinny arrows and radical fletchings. I don't personally think that they are the cure all for tuning and form problems though. In my opinion most are not any more forgiving than any other rest that is set up properly. Some may even be a bit worse. The drop a ways biggest advantage is fletching clearance. The only cure for bad form is better form.

And just because you have a drop a way doesn't mean you won't have fletching contact or perfect arrow flight. They still have to be adjusted properly and timed correctly in order to work right.

The WB is a decent rest for spot and stalk hunting, great arrow containment. I personally don't care for them though. I believe there is a VERY long thread about them if you care to read it. Nothing wrong with them, I just don't personally care for messing with them for normal shooting or stand hunting.

Some of my best shooting has been done with a 20 dollar TM prong rest. They work just great when set up correctly. Switching to a $100 fancy drop a way didn't improve my scores any, or get me anymore deer.

So to answer your question on what is the best rest. I would say which ever one you are happy and confident with. They all work when set up correctly.

Paul

passthru79 04-25-2007 04:37 PM

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I personaly prefer the QAD Ultra Rest. It has all the advantages of the wisker bisquit, but none of the draw backs. Its a total containment drop away rest. Doesnt get any better than that.

TROPHYHUNTER25 04-26-2007 03:23 AM

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trophy taker is the best drop away

davepjr71 04-26-2007 05:10 AM

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WB is very finicky to set-up and if you do not maintain form it will show in the shot. It's alsoan accurate rest if you are. Even though I've had someone tell me they are not accurate past 30 yds. I've shot arrows at 53 yds during tuning and they hit the center mark. If you use proper form it hits where you aim. If you do something wrong you will know it by the arrow flight and contact point. Not that the arrow goes flying off 5 ft from your aim point.

You can never go wrong with aprong rest(not spring)if you want to keep it simple. Simple to set-up. Simple to adjust. Been around a long long time.

I agree with what Paul is saying about the drop away. The theory behind them is that the rest clears so the arrow does not hit it during a "poor form" shot. In some ways it helps disguise problems that you have in form or equipment. And instead of addressing those issues you just ignore them. However, there area lot ofpeople with good formand properly tuned bows that use them.And they are probably the quietest due to least amount of contact with arrow.


BGfisher 04-26-2007 06:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: TROPHYHUNTER25

trophy taker is the best drop away
Compared with what? How many rests and what type have you tried?

Two years ago I had nine different ones on my bow in two months. If set up properly there isn't a hill of beans difference in any of them.

rankbull 04-26-2007 10:10 AM

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I love my trophy taker, but you will have to see what is good for you. If you go with a drop away get some mole skin to cover it, I dont like the noise of the draw with out it.

killzonearchery 04-26-2007 11:49 AM

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There is no best. It is all on opinion,it is what you like. Go to the pro shop and check them all out and see which one your like the most.

HuntingBry 04-26-2007 11:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: BGfisher
Two years ago I had nine different ones on my bow in two months. If set up properly there isn't a hill of beans difference in any of them.
If they're all the same why did you try so many? Do you just like trying new stuff out or really enjoy tuning your bow? Just curious.

I'm going to be using the QAD LD this year. I like the fact that you get good fletching clearance because it's a dropaway. It's full containment which is nice for hunting, and you can keep it in the up and locked position if you let down.

Like the others have said, you still have to set it up right and tune everything.

BGfisher 04-26-2007 12:48 PM

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Bryan,

I tried all those rests because I had just gotten a new bow and wanted to try "the lastest and greatest" after having shot a Star Hunter and SuperStar for about 10 years. I happened to be employed in the archery dept. at a Gnader Mt. store and had access to a lot of drop away rests so I put them on to see what I might like.

Well, frankly I could care less for any that have a cord tied to the down cable. I think it's a real Mickey Mouse affair for the money. The timing can change pretty drastically on them unless good aftermarket (low.no creep) strings and cables are used.

Couple that to the fact that I shoot Martin bows with the X System and just don't need another cord possibly throwing off the cam timing and I settled on a Trapdoor, which is on it's 3rd bow to date---my hunting bow.

The only other one I tried and liked was the GKF Infiniti which I attached the cord to a cable slide I robbed from the Vital Bow Gear dropper. Since then I've sold that bow so the rest is in the drawer awaiting another candidate to get attached to.

For my target and 3D bows I use a simple no nonsense Trophy Taker Spring Steel. It, like the Star Hunter in that I set it, tune it and lock it. No muss, no fuss. In fact, I just changed the prongs on the SuperStar to a blade like the TT and that's on my new Pantera (3D).

I've never, in over 30 years of shooting had a fletching clearnace issue that I couldn't resolve so why add something with moving parts that I don't need.

Containment rests such as the Whisker Bisquit are pretty simple too, but can have issues. The biggest being that because the arrow is surrounded by the rest a shooter must concentrate more on a good follow through, aiming until the arrow is completely gone. If the bow moves prior to the arrow leaving the bow the arrow will go that way, too.. And goodness knows, we don't always make perfect shots every time, especially in hunting situations.

Not that any are more accurate than another, but some have properties that lend themslves to not emphasizing my mistakes.

So now that I've rambled on, the answer to your question is that, yes, I like to play around and draw my own conclusion about things.

HuntingBry 04-26-2007 01:06 PM

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Cool, I wish I had that kind of opportunity to tinker and try stuff out. Being a lefty and not working in a pro shop limits my resources.

I used to shoot the Trap Door in its original version. It was a pretty good rest. The one thing that did bother me was that if I ever needed a follow up shot or missed and got a second shot I would have to reset the rest. If in the heat of the moment I was able to get this done the rest had a pretty loud click when set that I worried would spook game. Fortunately, I never had to test these theories, and the rest went when I sold that bow, but it was always on my mind.

davepjr71 04-26-2007 01:19 PM

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I just ordered a QAD Ultra rest about 2 hrs ago. I've had a WB on my bow since I bought it 2 months ago and like BG is saying. When my form is good the thing shoots centers out of targets. However, if I drop my arm a little too fast or raise a little too quick I get a stray off by a few inches. That doesn't mean that I will stop working on proper form though. There's no substitute for that.

Maybe by the time hunting sseason starts again my form will be solid andI may try the rest again. It was accurate and did the jobI wanted it to do with little parts to cause issues.

bow_hunter44 04-26-2007 02:13 PM

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I just put a Vapor Trail Limb Driver on my bow this morning. Exceptional results! I REALLY like the idea of the chord mechanismbeing attached to the limb instead of a cable. A measurement for center shot, one for nock set to get started were all it took. First arrow (bare shaft) bullet hole. Then for clearance check (hold your breath time here!). Bullet hole! I can't say enough about the Limb Driver!

bow_hunter44 04-26-2007 05:22 PM

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Just back in from shooting. The more I shoot that Limb Driver, the better I like it! I was getting nice tight groups and arrow flight to die for! The Vapor Trail Limb Driver has an avid supporter!

DROCK 04-26-2007 08:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: bow_hunter44

Just back in from shooting. The more I shoot that Limb Driver, the better I like it! I was getting nice tight groups and arrow flight to die for! The Vapor Trail Limb Driver has an avid supporter!
Good to hear, I am really leaning towards getting one when I purchase my new bow.

98Redline 04-26-2007 10:55 PM

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I have tried nearly as many rests as BG has (also have the archery shop hookup ;)).

This past season I decided to give the Limbdriver a try and was sold on it soon after that.

When it comes to new technology and archery I am a skeptic, but a techno-junkie as well. I have given nearly every gimmick a try and have a box full of rests that were supposed to be the best invention since the wheel but failed to deliver. The Limbdriver is not one of them.

It has been by far the most consistent and easy to time/tune drop away that I have ever used. After 6 months (and a caribou trip to northern Quebec) the timing on my limbdriver is still the same as it was when I set it up.

I have heard some people complain about the length of the cable going to the top limb. Comments like "It is too easy to get hung up in a branch", "It will get in the way", etc.... To that end, I have not had a single problem. Even if I were to hang up and break the cable, the rest can still be shot as a standard prong rest. Once the cable is removed it works identically to a TM Hunter.

IMHO, it ranks up there with Spot Hogg sights as one of the best acessories you can put on your bow.

txrvrbttmstlkr 04-27-2007 02:33 AM

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My vote goes with the Muzzy Zero Effect. It is a nice hook style drop away that has worked very very well for me in both hunting and 3D tourney applications.

jsasker 04-27-2007 05:37 AM

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The biscuit is the most trouble free hunting rest you will ever see.There is nothing to go wrong with it.Drop away rests have moving parts or rely on something to trigger them--if a deer comes my way,i know the W.B WILL perform!Last year i had a dropaway on my bow and found out AFTER i missed a chance at the best buck of the season,that my dropaway wasn't working like i thought it was:(.I knew better but had to try one of the latest,greatest rests and missed my chance because of it--not gonna happen again.[:@]The biscuit is the BEST for hunting.

BGfisher 04-27-2007 10:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: txrvrbttmstlkr

My vote goes with the Muzzy Zero Effect. It is a nice hook style drop away that has worked very very well for me in both hunting and 3D tourney applications.
I have a Zero Effect on my old (2003) Pearson Freedom. The only thing I can say bad about it is that the hook is way too long, but then a pair of wire cutters takes care of that real quick. Just snip off about an inch.

The only reason I don't use one now is that it just doesn't adapt very well to a bow without a cable guard, like my Martin's with Xsystem.

Bryan, as much bad press as the Trap Door gets I still like it better than most drop aways. There are guys that say it drops too soon and others say it doesn't drop at all. I guess this does happen and I won't dispute it, but with anything man-made there always apt to be some failures here and there.

One of the reasons I like to do my own testing is that I could get information on these threads, but you never know the experience level of the person making comments. You might run into someone who has only ever used one or two rests and the one that doesn't work is junk to him. Maybe he doesn't know how to adjust it. Maybe he doesn't even know how to adjust his limb bolts. Who knows?

gibblet 04-27-2007 10:22 AM

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i'm in a drop-away free zone, as in all of my bows are and will be free of drop aways.

MDBUCKHUNTER 04-29-2007 07:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: gibblet

i'm in a drop-away free zone, as in all of my bows are and will be free of drop aways.
That's too bad. You are missing out on some good technology.

archer58 04-29-2007 08:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: gibblet

i'm in a drop-away free zone, as in all of my bows are and will be free of drop aways.
Just curious...what rest do you use??

tmeservey 04-30-2007 06:47 AM

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Bowhunting rest technology isn't rocket science, I'll stick witha trouble free WB. She has never let me down, my fletchings haven't shown any problems over thousands of shots. I shoot indoor archery leagues, 3-D, I place 6" groups at 60 yards consistently with mine. If you are worried about all the hype how your fletching will get damaged, switch to Blazers. They work awesome!!!!:)


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