Black Ice problem
 

I bought a Black Ice by Bow tech, I have had the bow three weeks. After about 30 to 35 arrows through, the bow has developed a string buzz. I work part time in the archery dept for Cabelas, andhave 30 years of archery under my belt. We have worked on the bow several times, and still have not been able to fix the issue. Bow tech has been called, and as of today I still have not got word back from them as to whether they are going to take it back for an exchange. Last night I shot two other employees black ice bows side by side against mine, and the string buzz is very obvious. An sts would probably take care of it, but being a new bow I feel I shouldn't have to do this. Has any one else out there had this problem yet with there new Black Ice bow? I will let you know what Bow tech decides to do.

RE: Black Ice problem
 

If the string has stretched or cable, the cam could be out of optimal rotation. Check the other bows to see where their cams are as compared to your's. BowTech might have a measurement to go by on the cam/limb orientation if you call the tech department again.

RE: Black Ice problem
 

Check your "speed nocks" and the shrink tubing over them. If they aren't crimped tight and there is any play in the tubing they will buzz like an angry bee.
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Same thing with your factory silencers, if one is overly loose believe it or not it can buzz. They should be completely snug on the string.

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Check to see if the cam and/ or idler wheel are making contact with the limbs. That's what caused my Allyto buzz.

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Yes,, check the module screws also..

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Module srews are tight, it did appear that the string may have stretched, so I will check rotation,I actually have thetech book with these measurements listed in,the silencers are tight, will check the speed nocks.The Bow tech at there customer service center was stumped, as this bow has been performing very good for them.They did giveme a return number to take the bow back and service it, or to replace the bow. I will run through it one more time to check the items you have listed, before it gets shipped back. thanks for the tips. Will let you know the out come. Besides the buzz, I love the the Bow, and look forward to hunting with it for years to come.

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I have a black ice also and the first 10-20 shotsI noticed it too. I went over my bow as you are doing and didnt find an answer and thought that maybe it was just me that was hearing it.I lowered the draw weight(came from the factory set at #71) to my desired weight and the buzz went away. I would see if that helps you out at all. I then put a meanV on it and nowI hear almost no sound at all.

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My black ice did have a very slight string buzz. This was even after I changed to Vapor Trail strings. I replaced the speed nock,shrink tubing and the factorystring jax.I repeat, that the buzz wasVERY slight.
I notice everything about a new bow trying to get used to it's personality.

I also put a MEANV suppressor on it and the buzz is gone and it added 5fps to the speed.I can barely tellI have released a shot.
Check the draw stop for tightness,and the limb bolt set screws,then take ALL your accessories off except the rest and shoot it.
Do you use a peep w/ tubing?
Is your cam timed properly within the tuning marks?

Keep us posted ,I curious to know the outcome. Your's is the first Black Ice to have any issues.

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my Black ice also came set at about 71 lbs, I lowered it, but that did not make a difference,everything appears to be tight, the first thing that I did after I heard it was to remove the accessories, all but the rest (whisker bisquit) peep is not the tube type, still have to check timing. There have been two other customers at Cabelas that have come back in and mentioned having similar problems,(only one has come back to the store that I know of so far, besides mine) I even added in some string leachs, and some twists to the stringto see if that would help, but nope.The customer service dept told me all there string are pre stretched, but it does look like it may have went some more.I will work on it again Friday, still a few things to try, thanks to the advice found here, before it goes back to BowTech.

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I'll repeat this again. check the clearance between the idler and limb and cam and limb. Pretty much everyone with Bowtech's that have said about vibration noise have found this to be the problem.

RE: Black Ice problem
 

Id personally get a Hoyt to fix that problem

RE: Black Ice problem
 

I will check that out yet today

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When you say check the clearance, you mean make sure that there is room on either side of the cam/idler wheel and the limbs? Also, is that problem correctable? I have had my Black Ice for about a month and have shot it alot of times(over 100)with no problem. Just got back from the pro shop where they put on a tubeless peep and began to hear a buzz. Checked all the set screws and one was loose on the cam. After tightening, I can still hear the buzz. Wondering if pro shop guy did something when he checked the entire bow over.

RE: Black Ice problem
 

[quote]ORIGINAL: sinke123

When you say check the clearance, you mean make sure that there is room on either side of the cam/idler wheel and the limbs? Also, is that problem correctable? I have had my Black Ice for about a month and have shot it alot of times(over 100)with no problem. Just got back from the pro shop where they put on a tubeless peep and began to hear a buzz. Checked all the set screws and one was loose on the cam. After tightening, I can still hear the buzz. Wondering if pro shop guy did something when he checked the entire bow over. [quote]ORIGINAL: davepjr71

Mine was perfectly fine for 2 months of shooting and then the buzz came. Yes, I am talking between the cam and the limb. But not where the limb bolt goes thru the cam. Where the limb starts to curve back at the V. I'd take it back to the pro shop guy and tell him it was ok before he looked at it and about the loose screw. But be polite about it and see what he says.

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don't know if this will help or not but my 07 allegiance started getting a buzz after around 100 arrows shot, I looked everything attatched to the bow, removed and replaced all accessories, looked for cams rubbing, finally found that the limb pocket lock bolts had backed out, tightened them back up, buzz is gone. Might be worth looking at.

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Thanks a bunch, will check it out. However, I think I have checked every single bolt on the bow to make sure they are tight and they are. The mystery continues...

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Well, mystery solved. I took my Black Ice in and had it looked at. Remember when I said that I checked every allen screw? Wrong. I have a Trophy Ridge Mantis sight and there is the smallest allen screw they make on the side of the sight. This screw was backed almost the whole way out. Tightened it down and absolutely no more buzz. Boy did I feel stupid.
Anyway, this was a good thread with alot of pointers that I will keep an eye on.

RE: Black Ice problem
 

So it wasn't the Bow at all.

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95 % of the time it's not the bow. There are alot of scrwes to contend with.

RE: Black Ice problem
 

Glad ot hear that it was a minor problem and nothing with the bow itself.