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indianahunter83 03-21-2007 01:13 PM

peep site tubing question
 
What knot do you use when tying the peep site tubing to the bow? The last knot I tried decided to come apart and I'd like to figure out the best way...

hallj86 03-21-2007 02:53 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
Your best option is to throw that in the garbage and get one without a tube it slows your bow and causes a lot of vibration. You can get ones for the same price as the kind you have with alot better accurcey. You have to balance the size though too small you wont be able to see through it when in low light. Too big and you wont be verry accurate because you have a lot more room to center your pin in.

indianahunter83 03-21-2007 06:20 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
I'm not really worried at all about speed... ends up with enough tinkering i think i perfected a good knot. If i can ever tie it again is probably 50/50

TerryM 03-21-2007 06:36 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
Try and duplicate the same knot as on your loop.

vaclav 03-21-2007 06:43 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
go to your local archery shop and have them do it, if you have one that is.

indianahunter83 03-21-2007 07:44 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
See that is the problem... no pro shop near me (besides a gander mountain but I don't exactly trust them) the knot i have tied is worling very well so I think I'm good

BigJ71 03-21-2007 09:56 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
I don't tie a knot. I use this little clip type post that you attach on yourcable then you slip the tube over it like you would your peep. I like this type because there is no knot to fail.

Here is a pic.






KodiakArcher 03-22-2007 10:51 AM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
Best thing to do is get a creep free string and align your peep properly so you can get rid of the tubing. But if you're dead set on keeping it, the knot to use is the same one that your loop is tied with, just copy it.

Primitive Weapon 03-22-2007 11:02 AM

RE: peep site tubing question
 

ORIGINAL: hallj86

Your best option is to throw that in the garbage and get one without a tube it slows your bow and causes a lot of vibration. You can get ones for the same price as the kind you have with alot better accurcey. You have to balance the size though too small you wont be able to see through it when in low light. Too big and you wont be verry accurate because you have a lot more room to center your pin in.
Ditto that. Aside from vibration, the tubing generates alot of noise too. Besides, once it breaks and slaps you in the face (it happened to me) you'll go with a "tubeless" peep anyway.

I'm using the G5 Meta peep and LOVE it.

BigJ71 03-22-2007 11:38 AM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
I think tubeless peeps are fine........BUT even with a quality string you can still have creep issues. Changes in the weather will cause this to happen even with the best strings. With a tube style peep, attached correctly with the proper length tube you will have no problems at all. I replace my tube twice a year, once before hunting season and right after it. It only takes a few seconds to change and costs a couple bucks. I have yet to have one break when following this procedure.

Do they slow the bow down....Yep.
Do they make more noise than a tubeless peep.....Yep.

Has it ever cost me a deer.......Nope

I think the noise and speed thing (while real) are over rated. I'm getting 275fps out of my bow and it would be very difficult to hear the difference between shooting with or without the tubing.

What I do know is my peep will be aligned everytime I draw back my bow, no matter how hot, cold or rainy it is outside. I don't have to go out and buy abrand new top of the line string and cable for my bow either.

Remember,most bow makers out there that don't sell their bows strung withtop of the line strings and cables on them. You can get years of service out of them even though they will creep a little. Most I find will creep at first then settle down just fine. There are some very poorly made strings that will never stop, but most do. It's a shame to have to replace a brand new string and cable seton a brand new bow!

All I do is hunt so I'm fine with the peep tube. If I shot competitively it would be another story. I would probably go with a tubeless style peep, but for hunting a tube peep is a sure bet.

Change the tube often, make sure it's the proper length, put it on right and forget about it. When you draw, you will see your target.

dynatec 03-22-2007 06:01 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
you said it bigj12 ,couldn't agree more;)

sinke123 03-25-2007 08:12 AM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
Question guys, I have used a rubber tubing peep for the last three years. Just bought a Black Ice and had another one put on. How much does it slow the bow down compared to a tubeless one?

hallj86 03-25-2007 08:21 AM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
I went up 8fps but i think it is on a case to case bases. Your bow is different and your peep might be in a different spot. The main reason was the noise and vibration that sold me on a better peep. Plus look at teh size and amount of mas of the tube peep in your string compared to the tube less the hole in the string can even get smaller with the right peep.

kdsberman 03-25-2007 02:32 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
I have a peep with a tube on it but am starting to get convinced not to have a tube. So what are my options on peep sights that dont require a tube??? Id like to increase my bow speed and reduce the noise and apparently this will help. Thanks

hallj86 03-25-2007 08:37 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
There are a lot out there I just wen to a local proshop and told them I was upset about my tubing breaking all the time they told me the same stuff I told you and they showed me like 10 sights that went on without a tube. You cant do it on a new string it has to be streched and al rested into place so that the peep will not turn on you. If you are using a string loop thing willl also help you center the peep when you pull back.

davepjr71 03-26-2007 02:50 PM

RE: peep site tubing question
 
G5 makes a nice aluminum peep that is tubeless and has a disclaimer about increased speed. Put it on 2 weeks ago and no problems. You have to train the peep to stay in place. Once that's done your ok. I pulled a bow out I haven't shot in 8 yrs and the peep was still aligned with no tube required.




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