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Roskoe 03-11-2007 01:45 PM

Kisser Button
 
Upon the advice of a pro shop rep, I decided to try a kisser button. The angle is a little severe on my shorter bows, but on the longer Hoyt it works great. More consistent anchor point. I did, however, do a before/after chronographing - this little button cost me 5 fps! It doesn't weigh much - must be a little air resistance thing on the string.

early in 03-11-2007 01:56 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
I'm a firm believer in the kisser, the more referance points the better!;)

Steelhead31 03-11-2007 04:14 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
A kisser really takes that much speed away? I have a kisser along with a whisker bisquit on mine, since I just started shooting. How much does a bisquit take away?

TFOX 03-11-2007 04:38 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
If you develop a good anchor,the kisser will cost you accuracy.Look how big they are.I can't believe a shop would ever reccomend one.

MDBUCKHUNTER 03-11-2007 04:49 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
Kissers are a good thing. I wouldn't shoot without one. Same point of reference ever pull = accuracy. At a cost of 5fps....that is fine with me.

Roskoe 03-11-2007 08:00 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
I think his explanation was centered around oneadditional point of reference. Eye looking down the center of the peep, string on the tip of the nose, thumb under the jaw with bone to bone contact, and the kisser button. Sounded like it might be overkill to me at the time, but it was an inexpensive and easily reversable try. On my shorter bows, for some reason, the increased angle of the string makes the kisser button feel awkward. On the Hoyt it is a keeper.

TFOX 03-11-2007 08:05 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
The string should come across the corner of the mouth regardless if there is a kisser or not,the string is much smaller so there is less room for error without a kisser.


If you don't use a peep or hindsight,then I would say they are a must but with either of these,they are in the way.


There is a reason you RARELY see a kisser on a target shooters bow.


OH WELL,to each their own.;)

K-ZONE 03-11-2007 08:46 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
Try a trufire cushion button they are small,light wt maybe cost you about 1.5 fps. Doen't use the brass nock that comes with them they
have to be tied on so not to add wieght.

wis_bow_huntr 03-12-2007 05:16 AM

RE: Kisser Button
 
5fps??? man how big of one did ya put on? Im shooting a kisser, peep and wb and only lost a total of 8fps.

Roskoe 03-12-2007 10:46 AM

RE: Kisser Button
 
It's about the size of shirt button and has a little brass ring that locks it in place. I should have weighed it first - but it's extremely light. I did the chronographing with the same arrow on the same day. And fired several shots each way - they tend to be within 1 fps of each other out of this bow.

Roskoe 03-12-2007 10:48 AM

RE: Kisser Button
 
T Fox - my problem is that when I'm shooting at game, I tend to smile. That puts the spot where the string crosses the corner of my mouth in a different place. :)

mfhunter27 03-13-2007 02:08 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
I use a kisser button andI love it!!! Some say it takes away a little bit of speedbut then again what is speed if you are not accurate!!!!. I also use a peep, the more reference points, the more accurate, the better! Then ask yourself, which is better: A good clean kill or a wounded deer that was shot with arrow flying at the speed of sound!!!!!!

TFOX 03-13-2007 02:31 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 

ORIGINAL: Roskoe

T Fox - my problem is that when I'm shooting at game, I tend to smile. That puts the spot where the string crosses the corner of my mouth in a different place. :)

Your not supposed to smile untill AFTER the shot.;):DThe old saying,don't count your chickens.[8D]


mfhunter27


You have the same number of reference points with or without a kisser,they are just smaller without the kisser.


I have a drawer full of kissers thatI have taken off bows and then showed the people how to properly anchor and shoot without them.NOT ONE has asked to put them back on.[8D]

Elkcrazy8 03-13-2007 03:27 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 

ORIGINAL: Roskoe

T Fox - my problem is that when I'm shooting at game, I tend to smile. That puts the spot where the string crosses the corner of my mouth in a different place. :)
If you smile that would change your anchor point, when you practice you will need your wife to tickle you to get the same effect!!!!

Madjac20 03-13-2007 04:52 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 

ORIGINAL: mfhunter27

I use a kisser button andI love it!!! Some say it takes away a little bit of speedbut then again what is speed if you are not accurate!!!!. I also use a peep, the more reference points, the more accurate, the better! Then ask yourself, which is better: A good clean kill or a wounded deer that was shot with arrow flying at the speed of sound!!!!!!
It means you miss quicker. I believe in the kisser button, I like a lot of reference points as well, I'm just that way.

Straightarrow 03-13-2007 07:28 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
The best anchors are "hard anchors". Hard anchors don't move. These would include bone and teeth. Soft anchors are secondary in importance with some being better than others. Your nose is a soft anchor, but doesn't move too much and if you get your string to hit a particular spot on the nose, then it's an okay anchor.

The lips are a very movable soft anchor and not a real good choice. Combine that with a large kisser and it isn't nearly as effective as other anchors. A better hard anchor would be your cheek bone, jaw bone or a particular tooth (especially for a finger shooter). Combine that with the nose anchor and you'll have one that is easier to repeat exactly the same way on each shot.

Roskoe 03-14-2007 08:17 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
I would agree. The peep sight is an optical anchor of sorts. The nose touch to the string and the kisser button are tactile anchors. And the thumb joint against the corner of the jaw bone is a hard anchor. When they all come together, you had better be shooting at a different dot each shot - at least at 20 yards.

in da woods 03-14-2007 09:18 PM

RE: Kisser Button
 
Consistency & form are probably more important than the 5fps u may lose.Consistencywill lead to accuracy. With the speeds that these new bows are dishing out, that deer u go thru sure won't notice that 5 fps!


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