Vectrix or Vulcan
 

I have been following these threads somewhat and decided to go shoot these bows myself. I have an old razortec (3 years now). I shot the vectrix bow and the vulcan. my experience with these bows was that the vectrix was more difficult to pull back. Could this be the difference in cams? the vulcan was very smooth in the draw and fast.My bow shop is selling quite a few vulcans compared to the vectrix. they are saying that this is common with other shops. the vulcan b/c of the string suppressors is getting great reviews and that the old adage about needing a high brace height for increased accuracy may be put by the wayside with this bow. I have contemplated buying one but am very hesitant about it b/c of the brace height. I have always been told that the shorter the brace height the more errors and harder to control the bow will be. Can you guys share your experience with me on these bows? I pull 65lbs now but both these bows shoot faster than my current razortec. the vectrix is harder to pull at 60 than my razortec at 65 and the vulcan at 60 pulls like a 50lb bow to me. I am all confused. thanks

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The two bows are almost the same bow. The cams are the same Vector cam. Both are 33" ATA, TX500 limbs. The difference is in the brace height: Vectrix 7" vs Vulcan 6". That is what makes them feel different.

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thats funny I'm stuck in the same position you are,I want the Vulcan but my pro shop is a small one man operation.
He's good but no stock,you want to try one ..order it.
Like to hear your end result

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been reading on the short brace height and wrist slap.what is that?? I never had this happen to me. why would the 6 inch brace ht drawer way easier than the 7?? thanks for the help. other thought is what bow to order. I plan to shoot 60#. should I order the 50-60 limbs or 60-70 limbs. I know I can max the 60# limbs out to 63#'s. would the 50-60# limbs be more efficient of a bow. the max I ever pull is 65, but considering the ease of the vulcan on the draw and hold, I could see shooting 63. heck the 60#'s on the vulcan or vectrix is still faster than my 65#'s on my razortec. any suggestions or opinions.

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I was stuck in the exact same predicament a week ago. I chose the Vectrix in the end because:

a- others here warned me about the lower brace height

b- more importantly because the Vulcan felt very touchy in my inexperienced hands, like I could easily produce flyers

If I had the money or could convince the wife, thus lying to myself that it was a sound financial decision,I'd buy both and see how good I can get with each. Tell you the truth, against conventional knowledge or better yet, the collective wisdom here, a part of me still wishes I'd ordered the Vulcan instead. It's easier on the eyes and is very noticeably faster.

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I use to shoot a supertec which is pretty much the old version of the vulcan, it had a 6 inch brace height. I then switched to a ultratec which had a 7 inch brace height. For me, I shot the supertec better than the Ultratec. Maybe it is because I "punch" the trigger, I don't know. Everybody shooting style is different so you never know what bow will work better for your own style. good luck!

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Here is what my pro shop is saying that with the string suppresor system the lower brace ht isn't as big of a factor now. it definetly is faster and smoother on the draw at 60lbs than the vectrix. the suppressor system supposedly eliminates the wrist slap what ever that was. I shot it and got no vibrations, handshock or arm slap from the string. Come on guys, I am counting on you guys that have these bows to help out. It is a shame that I cannot shoot both out to 40 yards and see how they perform. my pro shop only has a 14 yard one lane range. I just hate to buy a bow and be disappointed later when I stretch it out to 40 yards. I reallistically have never shot a deer over 25 yards and only practice out to 40. keep the info coming and thanks for the help.

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The suppressor doesn't eliminate hand torque.It also will not get rid of the 1" extra travel the arrow is on the string and that is where alot of the forgiveness of the longer brace comes into play.

The suppressor will help eliminateSOME wrist slap.There will be some hitting issues with clothing but not as bad.


Take a short brace bow and twist it side to side at full draw and then take one with a larger brace and twist it side to side and see which one is harder to twist and settles back in quicker.The larger brace should win out.A deflex riserreally shines in this area.



Northslope,I am curious if your Ultratec was an 03 model?

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tfox, thanks for the info. that is exactly the info I was looking for. I will try that when I go up to the pro shop next time. keep the info coming.

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Are you sure both bows were set at the same draw weight? It doesn't make alot of sense that the Vulcan was "alot" smoother and easier to draw than the Vectrix when they are about identical. The draw weight had to be different.

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Draw weight and/or draw length because the cams are the same.The bows with all being equall should feel the same.

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That's what I was saying. One of the bows he shot must have been a few pounds heavier in draw weight to feel different from the other.

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I will go back and redraw both bows this weeks and see. The pro shop guy told me they were both set at 60lbs. I am here to tell you though the vectrix I pulled felt like 70 b/c I pull 65 now and it washarder to pull than my current bow. I shouldv'e double checked on the scale myself but didn't think to do so.

the vulcan shot 269 with a 362 gr arrow at 27 inch draw. the vectrix, harder to pull shot same arrow and draw 260. I didn't know that both bows were identical exept brace ht.

If I buy a new bow, should I get the 50-60lb limbs or 60-70?? both bows I shot were the 60-70 as the pro shop guy told me that he would have to special order the 50-60.

I was once told that the bow would be more efficient shooting at the top draw wt, and with this in mind I thought I would need the 50-60 limbs.

Any help here guys???

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Not really sure any of us can make that decision for you. I suppose it depends on what you really want. If you comfortably pull 63-65#, go with the 60-70# bow, there's NO GUARANTEE that you can get 63# out of a 50-60# bow. Looking at both bows, the Vectrix has a couple more add-ons to it than the Vulcan, and it their highlight bow for the forgiveness factor along with the speed factor. That being said, it you have excellent follow through, braceheight may not be near as detrimental as axle-to-axle when considering what you really want. I would like to buy a Vectrix XL, but that may not happen until they start showing up on the used market, because I can't talk myself into spending $700 right now, when I have a nice shooting bow. I also have a good deal on a Turbotec, which I shot, and even with the low brace-height, I thought it felt really smooth.

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I just got a Vectrix XL 50-60 and it's maxed out at 63#. It is a bit harder to draw than what I expected also, but I still LOVE it!;)

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the Vectrix has a couple more add-ons to it than the Vulcan??? what are they??? thanks. abh

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One extra riser shox.:D:D:D

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That would seem logical but is not the case. The Vectrix is indeed a bit harder to draw than the Vulcan. After reading this thread,I went back to the bowshop to try the two bows again. The Vectrix has more of a solid unchanging resistance throughout the draw cycle. The Vulcan seems to have a crisper drop into the valley sooner in the draw cycle. (hope I'm using the term right) Overall, the difference is noticeable but negligible. Trust me on this, I made a spectacle of myself drawingthe bows a good 10 times each over the course of 10 minutes resting my arm a little bit between each comparison pull.

My shop told me that if I'm gonna shoot no more than 63lbs that I should go with the 50-60lb limbs. Reason for this is because the draw cycle will be smoother/easier on top of that quieter. Think in terms that a thicker limb will be harder to bend over and once bent then released, it will return to its resting position more violently thus loudly.

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To add, I actually compared the Vectrix and Vulcan against my Cybertec all at the same identicalweight and the Cybertec is easier to draw than both the new bows. Yes, I had all 3 bows lying there in a public place of business and conductingmy ownlab experiment. :D

Scale of 1-10: the Cybertec is 8, the Vulcan is 9, the Vectrix is 10.

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I see 2 riser shox per bow at the top and the bottom of the riser.Where are the extras?Have a lookat the link below:

http://www.hoyt.com/home.tpl

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hoyttail, thanks for the efforts. I was pretty that my pro shop guy checked the poundage on the bows before giving em to me. I was begining to doubt myself on what I felt when pulling both bows.

I didn't see any extra addons either but hey I can miss something too!

what did your scale of 1-10 mean. 10 meaning smoothest to draw at same poundage or more difficult. Just curious.

thanks guys for all the input so far.

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10 meaning most difficult to draw. Vectrix was hardest but like I said, imho the difference is minimal. To put into perspective, 2 draw weight pounds separate the ratings 8 and 9. Then another 2lbs separates 9-10. So in essence, a mere 2lbs of feel separate the Vectrix and the Vulcan. At least that's what it feels like to me.

If you are still undecided between the two, maybe you can check my posts or the posts written by "monsterbuckdreams" (that was my username before I started goofing around with my profile trying to change my emailaddress then now I can't access it anymore) Anyway, I've picked at these guys brains enough that whatever they said to me could probably apply to you too.

Good Luck

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I stated that, and I was wrong, I was thinking when I first looked at it, the Vulcan didn't have the "Stealthshot," but it also isn't quite the parallel limb design that the Vectrix is, and doesn't have the "parallel split limb technology???" like the Vectrix does. I was looking at the Trykon vs. the Vectrix, not the Vulcan. I suppose the bottom line always goes back to which bow "FEELS" better, and which bow are YOU more comfortable with. Price is the same, most places, so it's not a dollars and cents thing.

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Were the bows IDENTICAL in draw length.(measured) Just because one says a bow is 28" doesn't mean it actually is 28".

This will have a dramatic affect on the feel of the draw cycle.


Another thing that will affect the feel is the way the cam is setup,meaning is the timing identical on both.If not,one will have a smoother transition that the other.Also,a HIGHER letoff will make a bow feel like it is much HARDER to breakover.


POUNDAGE is only ONE factor,there are many others.

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TFOX, it is a 03 ultratec do you know something that I don't??

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North Slope,that is what i figured.


I also had one and the problem with the 03 model is the back of the grip was rounded and this caused much inconsistancy with downrange groups.


I shot some of my best scores ever with my 03 but I also shot some of my worst.The grip is just too inconsistant.

Look at the new Hoyts,the back of the grip is flatter,when using side plates.I believe that even the wood grips are flatter than the 03 was.


This rounded grip took away some of the advantages of having the better a-a and brace IMO.


This is why when I looked at the guardian and saw it has the exact same grip,I immediately took it off my bows to shoot list.

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Thanks I will look into that

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I didn't look at each bow but I did see him check the poundage on the scale and they were both set at 60 lbs. I didn't know that there were different letoffs in these bows. as far as timing, I know that wasn't checked on one bow b/c he assembled it as I watched cause it came out of the box. I will definetely check into those things when I am up there this week. thanks again for the input.