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jrjr23 01-15-2007 10:05 AM

Blazer advantage?
 
I've been out of the bow hunting scene for the last 6 years and I'm getting back in. I'm looking at many different bows, sights, rests, etc. I've been reading here about blazers. What is their advantage over the old style fletching?

Madjac20 01-15-2007 10:20 AM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
Tougher andseem to stabilize broadheads.

mobow 01-15-2007 05:03 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
I'm just gonna save this reply on speed post.....[8D]

1. Unlike feathers, Blazers don't care how wet they get, they will work just as well.

2. They weigh a few grains less than 4" vanes.

3. They stabilize broadheads and fieldpoints just as good, and IMO, a little bit better.

4. They are more rigid and durable, especially when shot through a Whisker Buscuit.

Dubbya 01-15-2007 06:44 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
If you're going to shoot vanes then mobow is correct the blazers do have an advantage. I'm personally still not convinced that they perform BETTER than feathers.

mobow 01-15-2007 07:01 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
dwd, they don't, but they do perform just as well....They only have feathers beat if it's rainin.

Greg / MO 01-15-2007 07:20 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
Unless your fletching comes into slight contact with a twig or something on the way to its target... then the feathers are far more forgiving. And the Blazers don't look as cool... [8D]

Forgive us, jrjr... we're having fun by re-typing our positions here that we've all espoused many times... :D

mobow 01-15-2007 07:25 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
Uhhh......espoused?? Is that like....an electronic spouse or something?? :D:D

I actually would still be shooting feathers, and may go back, if I would just stay home when it rains. Oh, I'm gonna learn how to dip and crest as well...so feathers will be making a come back.


Greg / MO 01-15-2007 07:36 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
You got that link to my instructional thread on capping and cresting? If not, a quick search using "instructional" and "cresting" as key words should pull it up after putting me in the user name box...

It's a ton of fun, and way inexpensive if you do it like I show on that thread.

hardcorehunter 01-15-2007 08:03 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
I used to shoot feathers for years until switching to Blazers. Two more places Blazers shine over feathers is 1. Downrange past 35-50 yds, less drop in arrow speed, feathers start dying at these ranges. 2. Noise, feathers are noisey and it is conceiveable that an animal could hear a feathered arrow coming at them and jump or duck the arrow. While this isn't as huge factor, you can sure hear them coming if you have one whiz by you from a protected place to observe.

Greg / MO 01-15-2007 08:17 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
Since you brought it up, Don... ;)

Independent tests by bow testing authority Norb Mullaney have shown that a feather fletched arrow is still traveling 4 ft./sec. faster than plastic fletch, 29 yards down range. At all normal hunting ranges, feather fletched arrows travel faster, drop less, and arrive sooner than plastic fletched arrows.

Further tests by Dave Holt showed that the feather fletched arrow was faster than the identical plastic fletched arrow out to 41 yards. The feather fletched arrow then matched the plastic fletched arrow out to 61 yards (the limit of the test range). Through out the 61 yard range, the feather fletched arrow arrived at each distance in less time than the vane fletched arrow.

I've seen Len report the same findings from his own independent tests on here as well.

How's that ankle feelin', anyway?


TFOX 01-15-2007 09:03 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Since you brought it up, Don... ;)

Independent tests by bow testing authority Norb Mullaney have shown that a feather fletched arrow is still traveling 4 ft./sec. faster than plastic fletch, 29 yards down range. At all normal hunting ranges, feather fletched arrows travel faster, drop less, and arrive sooner than plastic fletched arrows.

Further tests by Dave Holt showed that the feather fletched arrow was faster than the identical plastic fletched arrow out to 41 yards. The feather fletched arrow then matched the plastic fletched arrow out to 61 yards (the limit of the test range). Through out the 61 yard range, the feather fletched arrow arrived at each distance in less time than the vane fletched arrow.

I've seen Len report the same findings from his own independent tests on here as well.

How's that ankle feelin', anyway?

Thanks for saving me some typing.;)This might be a different result if you were using 5" shields.


What bugs me about the blazers is the HIGH profile.That is what makes them work but they should really have no advantages,other than be tough as nails but that isn't what I want.The last thing I want my arrow doing is getting hung at the fletching when trying to get a passthrough.[&:]

Please don't take this as a bash.Every product on the market has advantages AND disadvantages.


I have no problems shooting wet feathers.:eek:




hardcorehunter 01-15-2007 09:52 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Since you brought it up, Don... ;)

Independent tests by bow testing authority Norb Mullaney have shown that a feather fletched arrow is still traveling 4 ft./sec. faster than plastic fletch, 29 yards down range. At all normal hunting ranges, feather fletched arrows travel faster, drop less, and arrive sooner than plastic fletched arrows.

Further tests by Dave Holt showed that the feather fletched arrow was faster than the identical plastic fletched arrow out to 41 yards. The feather fletched arrow then matched the plastic fletched arrow out to 61 yards (the limit of the test range). Through out the 61 yard range, the feather fletched arrow arrived at each distance in less time than the vane fletched arrow.

I've seen Len report the same findings from his own independent tests on here as well.

How's that ankle feelin', anyway?

Wow; were those tests ever done with Blazers or just plastic veins of same length and size of feathers? I never would have thought so, once I changed from from feathers to Blazers, Ibelieve that I had to adjust my 50 yd pin and stack it slightlymore close to my 40. Maybe other factors involved that I can't think of such as maybe I switched bow poundage since my last practice at 50 yds with feathers. With all that noise going on from the wind hitting the feathers in flight, that is quite an eye opener. Ankle is there, that's about it. It's only been 6 days since I broke it, I guess I need to learn patience. Thanks for asking.

jsasker 01-16-2007 06:47 AM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
How can a 5" feather have less drag than a 2" blazer?

hardcorehunter 01-16-2007 07:14 AM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
2 Questions:
1. Were these tests you guys speak of done with 2" Blazers or 4" plastic.
2. Were the feathers treated for waterproofness. I spray mine with an aerosol called campdry and the product really makes a feather waterproof and doesn't seem to affect the flight any differently. It does make the feathers a little stiffer though. They are still quite flexible though. Maybe this is why I thought I noticed flatterfarther downrange shooting at 50 yds with the blazers. I also don't own a chrono and it could be all in my head.I sure don't remember changing my poundage since sighted in with feathers and I do remember moving my 50 yd pina tad closer to the 40 yd once I switched to blazers. Maybe different shooting techniques between my feather sight in and the blazer sight in?

killzonearchery 01-16-2007 08:07 AM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
I dont think that there is much difference. I am going to stick with 4 inch vanes and feathers. I dont know about the blazers yet.

jrjr23 01-16-2007 01:49 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
GREAT STUFF GUYS!!! Thanks for all the information.

bigcountry 01-16-2007 02:34 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
Here is my problem with teh blazers. They are 0.6" high. Most of my 4" vanes are 0.4" high. Clearance is something that can worry me with my riser.

TFOX 01-16-2007 03:49 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 

ORIGINAL: jsasker

How can a 5" feather have less drag than a 2" blazer?

I wasstating that the 5" shields would have more drag than Blazers.I don't think 4" feathers will have more at hunting distances.

NY Harvester 01-17-2007 06:25 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

Here is my problem with teh blazers. They are 0.6" high. Most of my 4" vanes are 0.4" high. Clearance is something that can worry me with my riser.
Try the mini blazers they work really well. I was using them for 3d shoots and decided to try them with BH's. They shoot just fine out to 40 yd. with either slick tricks or sonic 100's.
My .02

Dubbya 01-17-2007 06:43 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 

ORIGINAL: mobowhuntr

Uhhh......espoused?? Is that like....an electronic spouse or something?? :D:D

Wow, that caught me off guard. I spit bud light all over my keyboard, thanks mobow.

Greg / MO 01-17-2007 08:37 PM

RE: Blazer advantage?
 
Well heck.. we've got i-tunes, i-pod, and a ton of others... why can't we have e-spoused? [8D]

Don, the tests were done comparing like to like; in other words, apples to apples... same-size feathers to same-size vanes.


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