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paka 11-08-2006 09:43 PM

going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
Aloha All ,
I'm gonna go for it and am at the point where a friend is bringing me loop material tommorow. Heres my plan.
1) square arrow , tie in loop.
2) set center shot
Then Im getting kind of lost. I will go with "T" form and hope my draw length wont have to be changed , I need a bow press to do so if it has to be done right? So then I pull back and adjust peep to be in front of my eye correct? From there do I just sight in? Ive shot fingers for all my bowhunting life11 years , and everyone says it will really increase accuracy. So I have to give it a try.
If any one has any tips, idea's or comments please let me know, I'd really appreciate ;)


deertale 11-09-2006 04:34 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
I switched this past summer myself. You might consider clipping your release on the string with a rubber cushion button to prevent arrow pinch. This works good if you have a longer ATA (mine is 38")bow. I didn't change my draw length and kept my peep close to same spot - anchoring the release at the corner of my mouth. Now I've got a switchback which is much shorter ATA so I went with a string loop then added a kiser button so I can get my eye closer to my peep. I don't really like attaching all this stuff to my string so I might ditch the peep, but it sure shoots nice - squeeze the trigger - whap the arrow goes where your pin is. Good luck with the switch.

KodiakArcher 11-09-2006 10:55 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
Draw length should remain the same. You'll probably have to move the nock set/ string loop down so that the arrow is square with the rest compared to nock high for fingers (and of course, move the peep accordingly). Finding a consistant anchor point is most likely going to be your biggest issue to resolve. You may want to try a kisser button until you get used to the release. The next thing you'll have to get used to is shooting seperate spots each shot so you don't wreck your arrows!

BGfisher 11-09-2006 08:23 PM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
You're going to find that the draw length will probably be too long. Instead of the string wrapping a nice radius around the fingers it comes to more of a point where the release attaches. So normally it'll have to be shortened about 1/2"- 1".

Now you're talking of adding a loop. This will make you stretch out more yet. Make sure you have a release that you can adjust the length of just in case. Keep the loop as short as possible. It only needs to be long enough that thr release jaws don't touch the arrow knock when hooking up.

Other than that, you may have to shoot a lighter spined arrow, but give what you got a try first. Oh, and most likely you'll have to completely retune the bow. Because shooting a release gets rid of archer's paradox the centershot may need to be changed. In other words, just do a complete retune.

Got a copy of Easton's Tuning Guide? If not download it from www.eastonarchery.com.

Bradkoz 11-09-2006 11:18 PM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
what to expect...........better accuracy for about 90% of the people who switch. just might want to focus on not developing any bad habbits like punching the trigger or target panic.

Sniper151 11-10-2006 12:22 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
Make sure you purchase a release aid that attaches with a wrist strap. Until you are familiar with the release there is a tendency to let go, and it will go without being attached your body.

paka 11-10-2006 12:30 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
thanks all , going outside to try to set it up;)

Arthur P 11-10-2006 03:34 PM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
With a wrist strap release, I would add that youmight experiencethe wierdestfeeling, like you're handcuffed to the freakin' bow! I had the darnedest time getting used to that when I started using a release. It was actually claustrophobic and, I swear I'm not lying, I had to fight down a panic attack on more than one ocassion! [&:]It took several weeks before I finally got used to it, but never quite comfortable with it. That's likely the reason I nevergot to the point where I could shoot any better with a release than I could with fingers.

Alpha Capo 11-11-2006 07:49 PM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
i know one thing you can expect for sure....

BETTER ACCURACY. its gonna take a while to get used to tho

paka 11-12-2006 01:07 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
One thing to expect it to change you grip [:@]Slapped the hell out of my forearm holding my old way twice. And yes it really , really hurt.
So I added a loop , raised my peep sight up and my pins had to go up to , but I must say the accuracy is:) RIDICLOUS :D. Ive never seen such consistent arrows. Gonna go sight in past ten yards tonight . Talk later. Thanks for all idea's and thaughts.

paka 11-12-2006 01:22 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
Quick question though, I have my sight (copper John Hunter) as far up and 10 yard pin up as far as possible . Why is this?? I have peep lined uo with my eye and dont want to move it , so , I'm just wondering what I can do. Any idea's to how I;d be able to lower ( center) my sight ??? Without putting arrows into my roof?

davidlx32 11-13-2006 12:49 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
Honestly it will be the best thing you will ever do, but Ihad a hard time using a wrist stly realse, a buddy happen to have an extra carter bigkid 3D that he wasnt using and needless to sa y he never got it back. My scores skyrocketed. If you are a hunter or into 3D and indoor target, try on out, you dont have to have the string loop tied on and I thought it was very esay to get used to, it is conk of like a tension release when you get to you anco point just start making a fist then BAM your arra is gone. and dont for get to change over your rest, one that is designed for mechanicl release than a finger set up. but I think you will like it. I had watched a video that my coach had at one time and you wouldnt belive the way the arrows left when it was shoot with figurs than compared to a release. That video is what made up my mind to make the switch. If you have any questions leave me a message in my inbox and maby eI can get you a coupy of the video. Have A Good Day

Arthur P 11-13-2006 07:35 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 

Quick question though, I have my sight (copper John Hunter) as far up and 10 yard pin up as far as possible . Why is this?? I have peep lined uo with my eye and dont want to move it , so , I'm just wondering what I can do.
For one thing, with today's bows you don't need a pin set for anything under 20 yards. I've got mine set for 27 yards. It's an inch high at 10, 1 1/2" high at 20 and an inch low at 30. Your points of impact will vary, depending on your sight parallax and arrow speed, but you get the idea.

For another, you've stepped into a completely different method of shooting. You can't do that and get by without wholesale changes to your setup, even though some of the changes might be a pain in the butt. Like moving the peep and getting it re-aligned. You've got to move your anchor to get within your sight's range of adjustment, which will force you to move your peep. It's a pain, but it's gotta be done.





BGfisher 11-13-2006 09:01 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
paka,

You may not want to move your pins, b ut that's most likely what you'll have to do. Your anchor is too low to allow for a lower sight. That's why I said earlier that you may have to shorten the draw length of the bow when moving from fingers to release. If you like to have the string touch your nose then when you raise your anchor the draw length is not going to allow for this. The string will be drawn more back along the side of the nose.


Just for a reference, if you can see in a mirror or have someone else help you, when you are at full draw the arrow nock should be approximately straight down from your eye. If it's behind the eye then the draw is too long. After you establish a better draw then you can adjust the length of the release head or the string loop (if you use one) to get your body in good alignment.

paka 11-15-2006 01:27 AM

RE: going from fingers to trigger?? What to expect?
 
Thanks Guys for all the replys;)If anyone out there is still shooting fingers , you owe it to your selves to try a string loop and mechanical release. I was so die hard fingers but had to try this set up out to see what all the hype was about. Consistency , accuracy , and very tight groups :DI cant believe what a difference it has had on my hunting. And dont let how long it would take for you to get used to deter you, might only be a cupple days or sessions.
And my anchor had to move up my face and peep come down to get sights to even out. Also had to drill out peep a little ( When people say take the peep out first:eek: , dont think your the special where nothing will happen[:@]) Scared the crap out of me when it spun out. But all is well , Thanks again everyone!!!!!


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