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WHAT IS THE BEST REST. ANY FEEDBACK GREATLY APPRECIATED.

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I prefer the biscuit, no moving parts, very little to break,works well with right fletched blazer vanes IMHO.

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Best rest for what? What do you want your rest to do for you? What kind of shooting do you intend to do? Hunting? Target? 3D?

If it's to be a rest for strictly hunting and recreational target shooting, I'd go with the bisquit because of it's simplicity. If it's to be used for serious competition, even if youalso intend to hunt with the same setup,I'd suggest the dropaway because it's capable of greater accuracy at longer distances.

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It depends , what comes on the new bow you'll have to buy if you dry fire yours anymore?

Sorry, the whisker biscuit is easy and good... go with it. Thats whatt I have and I like it.

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I like biscuits with jelly on a plate but not on my bow!

Go with a drop away

check out the archery gear classifides I have some TKOS for sale there

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drop away if you want the best performance and consistity.

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I'd have to agree with this statement, If you are using your bow to hunt then the Biscuit is hard to beat. While it can be accurate at long distances I think you will find the dropaways to be more accuratein the hands of an average archer. But, for hunting distances (under 50yds)the Biscuit is great. I use one and I have no problems at all with it, even with standard 4in cheapo vanes.

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I use a drop away. Once you get the hang of it, it's easy. Once it's set, there is no tuning or fussing with it. It's just as "simple" as the whisker biscuit. What I don't like about the biscuit is that it will sometimes catch a bit of fletch and your arrow does not come off clean. Oh, you hit close to where you were aiming, but with hunting, that could be a liver/gut shot instead of a lung shot. Spend the extra money and time to get used to the drop away.

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biscuit for hunting is a good choice. You'll be changing fletchings on your arrows a little more often. But the 360 deg. of capture is great when your in the stand. for target or 3d. Id definately switch to a dropaway. I persnally like the Trophy Takers drop away!! Reliable and durable. I use it for hunting also. But there are many decent drop aways out there. more of a preferance. Good luck!!

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The one the only Muzzy Zero Effect I have two of them and love them with never a problem

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Why would you have to worry about changing your vains while shooting a W.B. I have been using a W.B. for 3 years and shooting Blazer vains and I have never had one tear or rip off. The only vains I have to replace are the ones I have shot off.

Statements like that are misleading. If you are losing vains, then either the rest is not at center shot ( poor bow set up ) or the vains were not fletched correctly. A bunch of people blame the W.B. for a situation that it is not the cause of. I know, like I said ..... Not one problem in 3 years.
W.B.'s and blazer vains are almost idiot proof when both are installed correctly. I could not be happier with this set up.

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MichaelT, your talking a specfic combination thats working for you. Does that mean every type of vane on the market will also pass through the W.B. for 3yrs w/o needing replacement?
I hear the W.B. is a good hunting rest, but mainly the reasoning behind it is becasue it totally incaptures the arrow. There are other rests on the market that do the samething, and I know of two drops aways that also totally incapture the arrow. 1 which I use is the Q.A.D. Ultra or Hunters rest. I absolutely love this rest. Its very quiet, full vane clearance, and the arrow cannot fall out of the rest once you cock it into place. 2-Vital bow gear also makes a very similar drop away to the Q.A.D. I've heard good reviews about this rest as well.
If you want a all around good rest, I'd go with one of those 2 drop aways.

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Fellas.....let me get some thing clear here, I have been using the Whisker Biscuit since it first came out (the all black bristle ones) and yes the older style did wave the vanes. Since the introduction of the updated Biscuit with the brown and blackbristles there is no vane damage and I shoot 4in cheapo vanes that my Proshop buys in bulk. The key is to make sure it's set up correctly and the biscuit opening is the right size. The arrow should only be touching the black bristles. If it is touching the brown the opening is too small. Now I will say I do not have any experience with arrows traveling faster than 270fps as that is as fast as my bow will shoot my 476grn arrows, so I don't know how the vanes hold up to high speeds, perhaps at high speeds some damage occuresbut like I said my vanes show no damage.

This statement could not be any further from the truth[&:]. From 50yards and in the biscuit is plenty accurate. It's only at long distances does the drop away tend to be more accurate (IMO)and I'm not talking by a great difference either only a matter of a few inches. Remember there are some who have won tournaments with a Whisker Biscuit restso in the right hands it is very accurate. My hunting distances are out to 40 yards so I practice out to 50 and I can tell you that I have to shoot spots out as far as 30 yards or I will be damaging vanes, and I consider myself an average archer.

I have no idea why people like to bash the Biscuit,if you don't like that's fine but don't spreadB.S. about it.[:@]
This poster asked a question, Biscuit or Drop-Away, you can give him your opinion without having to bash another product.

Hey I'm not a big fan of drop aways for many reasons butI dare you to find a post where I bash them.Face it the biscuit is here to stay.......why? Because it works and works good. In my opinion it is BY FAR the best HUNTING rest on the market today. Is it the perfect hunting rest......no but it's close.:D

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some Love it
some Hate it
I hate it too

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Well, I gues you are right, we are talking about a rig that works well for me. And we all know that my rig is the only one in the world that it will work on. Even if everyone else sets a correct centershot, sets the W.B. perfectly perpendicular, sets the nock point correctly, and does everything else they should normally do, no matter what rest they use. My setup stands alone.....One of a kind.......Hooray.

And my point about refletching is this: Say they have 1 doz. arrows. They happen to rip the fletch off of everyone of them the first time out. So now they have to refletch.....One last time, because now they can go back with blazers and they too can be good to go for the next three years. See, what I am talking about is a very realistic situation that is attainable by everyone. Not something that is magical for only me. If you need to refletch one time...go ahead. But the rest should be set up properly regardless of what rest you use. You still have to adjust your dropaways..........don't you????????

But I can hardly understand the hatred held by some for the W.B. You see, I don't use a drop away. Is it because I hate them, NO! I have "talked" with others on this site, and there are some whose opinion I respect greatly, and they love their drop aways. But even though I don't use one, I know they work. They work well in fact. I don't hate them, it is just that I don't happen to use one. I don't need to. But I am not going around being rabidly hateful about them. There is room in this great big bowhunting world for many different types of equipment. When people ask for help and opinions, we should try to give the most complete andHONEST assesment of the things we know about so that that person may make a well informed decision. That is what I do. I will tell about what I know, but I am not going to put down other people and their equpment just because it is not what I use. We also need to not make blanket statements about equipment. The idea of having to refletch constantly is flat out wrong. I know people using W.B.'s but not blazers, who do fine. But it has been told and shown repeatedly that blazers are an excellent fit for a W.B. and other rests also. Blazers are a great fletch, by their own merits, and more people are finding this out everyday.

So just because you might not like a certain piece of equipment, or because you need the ego boost of finding out that someone took what you said to heart and bought a certain piece of equipment based on your recommendation, there is no reason to not be honest with what you are saying. I can respect people who stand up and say " I hate this P.O.S. - I don't know why, but I just do. - a whole lot more than people who make up blatently false reasons, misleading other unknowing people along the way.

And I tip my hat to you Bigpapascout. You are straight up. No excuses or lies. You hate the W.B. and it is not sugarcoated with empty excuses. I can respect that. But no matter what equipment we use, we should always strive for perfection and correctness in its installation and set up. The job of cleanly and respectfully taking an animal demands it.


P.S. - one other reason I don't use a drop away, is that while failures are very few and far between, I have heard of drop away rests breaking down in the field. The drop away rest is a moving part rest. Moving parts can fail. If you are in the woods and it fails, unless you have exrta parts with you or you can fix it, you are screwed. The W.B. has no moving parts. It is what it is. Period. For me, thats just one less thing to go wrong.

And as for the argument concerning loss of arrow speed through a W.B. - the effect is neglegable. It only amounts to a few FPS. And I dont know anyone who an tell the difference between 260 fps and 263 fps. And if you can, then you are a better man than I.

God Bless

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I myself have never used a W.B., butI have friends who do, and love it. Its like everything else that has good & bad points. Ibelieve what mostthink that dislike the W.B. is this rest goes against the whole concept of what a rest is supppose to do. Its been put into our heads for yrs, and yrs. YOU DON"T WANT ANY FLETCHING CONTACT. This rest has fletching contact. When it first came out I read several posts on this site how many were cutting out the whiskers to get vane clearance for the rest to work properly. I thought then what is the point of even owning one then. Since its improved. But it started off with a sorta bad reputation that hasn't quite totally left the product.
The drop away concept goes along with whats been put into our heads for all those yrs. A rest that'll work w/o fletching contact. Long as you can get the timing down on the drop. (Which is pretty simple. For most its simply pulling back your bow with the clamp loosened.) Your arrowsets onthe rest long enough for accurate arrow flight. The other nice advantage of a drop away is becasue it does have less rest contact, it leaves less margin for shooter error. Drop aways are more forgiving.
So it all comes down to personal preference, and everyone of us is going to back what works for us individually. Thats the great art of archery, were all different in our own little ways. What might work for me, might not for someone else. But I agree there's no reason to bash a product that is working for others. If a bad incident comes from personal experience, than sharing that is also informative as well.
The best adviceI can give on selecting arest for you, is to figure out what you want out of your bow. Look, and read about different ones. Ask your friends. Then go try one, and see if its what you wanted. If not, go try another.

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I like and use drop aways. I had a biscuit and I found myself having to refletch my arrows constantly. The biscuit was just tearing up my fletching. I switched to a drop away and since there is absolutely now fletching contact (except arrows hitting arrows in my target), I find myself refletching arrows a whole lot less. You will also get faster arrow speeds with a drop away because of the friction of the biscuit on your arrow.

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We tested fps loss and gain. Compaired the Trophy Taker drop away to the whisker biscuit. Only had 6 fps loss. Not enough to notice. And to Mike T. They do tear up fletchings on arrows. The only ones we havent had issues w/. Are Blazers and the new Quick Spins. Which are heavier like the blazers. You havent noticed cause you shoot blazers !! LOL !!!! And you do know that there are 2 different biscuits? One sized for carbon arrows and one for aluminum. Had a guy come in and throw his. Said it was junk. Come to find out he was shooting fat aluminum logs through one for a carbon arrow. Thats what ya get for buying something off the internet!! LOL !!!! Its great for what its designed for!! HUNTING !!! Now you w2ont see me at a ASA Pro-Am shoot w/ one. Or in Vegas for Spots. But hunting, wouldnt bother me at all. Though I'm not a user. My 4.5 yr son does. works great for him too.

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I like NAP drop aways and i will keep using them,to each his own i always say.

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Drop Away

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i have a whisker biscuit on my parker, works great wouldnt change a thing, no worrys about the arrow falling off the rest...but i quess its what ever suits u and your bow the best

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I went out and bought myself the new QAD lockdown version and loved the thought of no contact whatsoever,but when i took it to the woods and got my chance at a very decent buck for my area(central minnesota,so i've seen a few good bucks;)),managed to get about a 15 yard broadside shot,sqeezed off shot and to this day have no idea where the arrow went!I do know now after shooting the dropaway some more that the arrow rest wasn't dropping,it was getting knocked down by my arrow on the shot!Yeah,i know people are gonna tell me it wasn't set up properly but it was working great!Don't know what got buggered and right now i don't care,i put the W.B. back on and have no doubts about it's performance;):)

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Thats what I said before in this same thread. Poeple may like their drop aways, and thats fine, but for me that is one more piece of moving equipment that can break or have something go wrong. Not everybody has faith in the W.B., but I know it works for me, so we all can use what we like and everyone is happy. A bunch of people use drop aways and never have a problem. I just perfer to eliminate that possibility up front.

God Bless

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I was very skeptical.Even had one on my bow 2 years ago and took it off because I was worried about it making noise and spooking deer.This year I said WTF I'm going to give it a go.I shot a mature doe at 12 yds who came in crosswind and was a little spooked.She never knew what hit her.
I shoot blazer vanes with a carbon arrow and a slick trick head.I have not found a better combination in 20 years of bow hunting.It's the ultimate in KISS which is what I like about it.Drop aways may be slightly more accurate but they are not without issues too.Timing,having an arrow holder,letting down,noise etc.



CB

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Go with the Whisker Biscuit!!! I've used one forever and love it---the arrow can't fall off, it's really simple, and I can shoot great groups with it.

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Whisker buscuit vs drp away again???? awwww man people just cant get enuff

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I'm a fan of the Biscuit, never shot a Drop-Away but my W.B. hasn't failed me yet. It does tear up the fletching on cheapo viens, but I split arrows and end up having to buy a new set, looking into making my own but im just getting into the whole bowhunting flow.

I VOTE BISCUIT!:D

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I'm all for the drop away(mze)but the bisquit is widly used and liked(not by me)
And this topic has had the S**t kicked out of it:D

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Reflex... ive been a drop away man for years...but Im thinkin of givin the ol wiskas a try... the drop away is a sweet device.. Im using a NAP quiktune 800

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What, no Atlasman here to defend his WB!!! Cool, OK then...DROP AWAY of course!!! Why would you want fletching contact when the Trophy Taker drop away is on the market. I have shot a Trophy Taker for 4 years and they are simply an awesome rest. Alright Atlas, popcorn is ready.

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I have a Hoyt Trycon with a quick-tune drop-away rest. Iam amazed at how well my arrows fly. The great thing with a drop-away rest is that there is no contact with the arrows, unlike the whisker bisquit. There is a little hastle with moving parts and adjustments, but once installed they are great rests.

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i like the biscuit: i used to have to worry about having my arrow dropping of the rest but with the wisker biscuit i don't now

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Obviously it depends a lot on what you want it for, but personally for 3D and hunting I like a drop away. I have a Trophy Taker Original itssimple, rugged, and quiet. Shoot both and go with what you like and what will fit your needs.

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Hey Hardcorehunter
Can I have some of that popcorn Bro

someone pass theBISCUITS N gravy PLease:D

Bless your little peapickin hearts LMBO if you guys like your biscuits on your bow well then I say more power to you