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TerryM 07-10-2006 06:04 PM

AAHHHHHHhhhh my bow's buggered up!!!!!!!
 
I can't believe this. I was shooting my bow ( Bowtech Equalizer ) tonite and heard a grating noise on one shot and on looking the bow over realized that one of my module screws had come out and gouged a big groove on the inside of the limb !!!!!!! I'm afraid to shoot it now as the fibers are definitely cut right by the cams. Well I guess I'm going to see how good the warranty is with Bowtech. The worse thing about all this is Bear season starts in a month here. AAAahhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!![:@]

nubo 07-10-2006 07:13 PM

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OHHH Noooo !

I hope you get thing's ironed out in a hurry with your bow Terry. I don't want to be going by myself. But if you like I'll shoot you a bear and bring it home for you LOL.

nubo

Finch 07-10-2006 07:22 PM

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I hope they don't tell you that was ignorance on your part. It can happen to anyone but they may say that. Let us know!

They might fix it for you but I think a month is pushing it. Good luck.:)

TerryM 07-10-2006 07:35 PM

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MO_Bowhnter 07-10-2006 07:51 PM

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Good luck man, that's bad news.

mobow 07-10-2006 08:01 PM

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Shoulda bought a Hoyt. :D

Dude, that stinks!!! I bet they make it right. If you bought it from a Pro Shop, they should take care of you as well. I know my shop just tells them that the limb broke, and they send new ones. We toss the old ones in the trash, they don't even want to see them. Hope you get that worked out quick fast and in a hurry!

TerryM 07-10-2006 08:22 PM

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I hope they don't tell you that was ignorance on your part.
Well they could always do that but I went over that bow completely less than a week ago and not one single screw was loose at all, not a one and it had been shot maybe 100 times since then. If these mod screws need to be loctighted they should tell us to do so.

TerryM 07-10-2006 08:24 PM

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Shoulda bought a Hoyt.
If this goes sour ( I hope not this is my third and hopefully not last Bowtech ) I will likely jump to Ross Archery.

mobow 07-10-2006 08:26 PM

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Can't go wrong w/ a Ross! Great bows indeed. We started selling them at the shop a few months ago and they are causing quite the noise! You'll love it should you go that route.

TerryM 07-10-2006 08:51 PM

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You'll love it should you go that route.
I hope I don't have to find out. Frankly I would be surprised if Bowtech did not do well by me. This is my third one and I have not needed service until now and I have never heard of anything but excellent service from them. The bow was bought from a pro shop and he actually swapped out the draw length modules when I bought it and he never used loctite nor told me to either.

jeremy3303 07-10-2006 09:39 PM

RE: AAHHHHHHhhhh my bow's buggered up!!!!!!!
 
on my equalizer after about a week of shooting i noticed a vibration and checked the bow over and found that both module screws in both cams were loose so i tightened em up and havent had a problem yet its probly just that they dont get them tight enough from the factory and with bowtech's customer service it shouldn't be any problem at all getting u all fixed up

good luck man hope everything works out in time for the season

cartman308 07-11-2006 01:03 AM

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I'm fairly sure Bowtech will take care of it. My shop told me a story that you wouldn't believe and they covered it.............Dude cut is string on purpose...........after he knicked it with a broadhead and cut acouple strands.....he needed two new limbs, and new cams......bowtech said they would cover it once, but tell him to bring his checkbook next time.

gibblet 07-11-2006 05:07 AM

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i've got new limbs on the way for my consti. the limb cap is grating on the cam. shop said normal limb delivery time is now 3 weeks. its been 2 weeks already and still waiting. maybe you should call the factory direct since you have a trip coming up and plead your case.

TerryM 07-11-2006 06:09 AM

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I have emailed Pat from Bowtech, we'll see what happens.

gibblet 07-11-2006 06:12 AM

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what do you think of my new avatar?

nodog 07-11-2006 06:15 AM

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Took me awhile. LOL:D

TerryM 07-11-2006 06:27 AM

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Gibblett,
You think you guys pay alot for gas? Reg unleaded these days runs for 1.05 a liter up here. Thats around 4 bucks a gallon down there.

nubo 07-11-2006 10:36 AM

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Jeremy!

Before tightening down your mod screw's ,just dab some blue Loc-tite on them [do not use the RED or you'll never get them out again]and they'll not come lose again .I had this problem with a previous bow that I owned[Golden Eagle]and was told that all the mod screw's on any bow should be loc-tited with the BLUE to prevent this problem from happening again. Since then I alway's loc-tite them down, and have never had a problem with them coming lose . You still need to check them anyway's ,just for safety sake .

nubo

walks with a gimp 07-11-2006 10:45 AM

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Is it just me or are there others out there that do routine maintence and checks on their bows often? I wouldn't hold someone else responsible if I didn't get the oil filter tight on my truck when I changed oil and it ruined my motor. I don't think it's BowTech's responsibility to supply another set of limbs to correct someone's lack of routine maintence but maybe they will anyways.

Good luck..

TerryM 07-11-2006 01:22 PM

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UPDATE: Bowtech returned my emails first thing in the morning and I am glad to say all is well and they again prove why they are a great company to deal with. This was my first need of customer service and they took care of me. If anybody ever doubted Bowtechs commitment to service, don't !

Matt/TN 07-11-2006 01:36 PM

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well if they dont cover it you can either buy a new bow or buy the limbs, the new bow would get you ready by bear season

TerryM 07-11-2006 01:55 PM

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WWAG,
I also routinely check everything and had gone over every single screw on that bow just a few days prior with less than 100 shots since. I also had never until that point have any screw whatsoever including the mod screws ever loosen on it which is why it caught me off gaurd. I have heard of companies replacing risers after being driven over by trucks and strings being cut by broadheads with resulting expploded bows. When a company steps up to the plate above and beyond they have my business forever. I also had an issue with Bohning Blazers last winter and the way they treated me has also bought them my business forever. Bowtech doesn't have to do anything but regardless they certainly made a happy customer out of me and that's just good business seeing as I tend to buy alot of bows and may have influenced a person or two into buying a Bowtech.:D

turtleshell 07-11-2006 02:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: walks with a gimp

Is it just me or are there others out there that do routine maintence and checks on their bows often? I wouldn't hold someone else responsible if I didn't get the oil filter tight on my truck when I changed oil and it ruined my motor. I don't think it's BowTech's responsibility to supply another set of limbs to correct someone's lack of routine maintence but maybe they will anyways.

Good luck..
Is it just me or didn't he just say he went over the entire bow and there were no loose screws when he did, maybe you didn't read that post.

Greg / MO 07-11-2006 02:46 PM

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I seriously had no doubts that Pat and BowTech wouldn't take care of you to the fullest, Terry; I'm glad to see they did exactly what was expected.

Class company, or I wouldn't be shooting their bows.

I also took this from page 7 of my owner's manual:

"It is important to make sure module screws are properly installed with Loc-Tite. Warranty DOES NOT cover module screws that loosen and cause limb damage."

So... technically, they wouldn't be obligated -- but, like I said,a class company.

nodog 07-11-2006 04:48 PM

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Well done Greg! A man who reads a manual and even gives a ref. to the page.

I'm kind of being funny, but in a serious way. Good post really!:)

Don't own one of their bows but their advertising is first rate.[8D]A class act for sure.

jeremy3303 07-11-2006 07:36 PM

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yep i saw that page in the manual and like it says i went back and loc-tited em thanks for the heads up

Finch 07-11-2006 07:59 PM

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Guess I'll be buying loc-tite tomorrow.:D

Terry: What kind of timeline did they give you?

nubo 07-11-2006 08:02 PM

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Well I think the point being made here guy's is that BowTech has stepped above their obligation in order to keep their customer happy ,this is exactly what make's this bow company the very best in my book's .
I learned the lesson on mod screw's very early in my archery career ,that you need to pay very close attention and check all screw's and accessories to be sure everything's tight ,I've had it happen to me and heard of many,many happening's ,sometime's it's not pretty and unfortunately for Terry his is one of the ugly one's ,but BOWTECH has shown us once again why they're the best .
I just hope for the guy's that never thought of mod screw's and accessories that they'll learn from this thread ,because it could be you next .A little loc-tite and regular check's will go along way .

nubo

TerryM 07-11-2006 08:43 PM

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Terry: What kind of timeline did they give you?
I will be good to go for my bear hunt next month which is all i care about.

nubo 07-11-2006 10:00 PM

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Ducsauce!

If your putting loc tite on ,be sure you use the blue loc tite, 242 Is the number ,if you use the other you'll never get those screw's out again ,be sure it the BLUE.

nubo

walks with a gimp 07-12-2006 12:24 AM

RE: AAHHHHHHhhhh my bow's buggered up!!!!!!!
 
TerryM,, glad to hear that BowTech is taking good care of you.

Good luck bear hunting;)

Finch 07-12-2006 05:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: nubo

Ducsauce!

If your putting loc tite on ,be sure you use the blue loc tite, 242 Is the number ,if you use the other you'll never get those screw's out again ,be sure it the BLUE.

nubo
Thanks for the heads up.:)

DaveC 07-12-2006 05:53 AM

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Errg, another reminder that I still need to loctite my screws[8D], maybe today.
One question- who was the genius at loctite that put the blue- 242 in a red container? at least my last 2 bottles are any ways.

nodog 07-12-2006 06:01 AM

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"who was the genius at loctite that put the blue- 242 in a red container?"

LOL

walks with a gimp 07-12-2006 11:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: turtleshell


ORIGINAL: walks with a gimp

Is it just me or are there others out there that do routine maintence and checks on their bows often? I wouldn't hold someone else responsible if I didn't get the oil filter tight on my truck when I changed oil and it ruined my motor. I don't think it's BowTech's responsibility to supply another set of limbs to correct someone's lack of routine maintence but maybe they will anyways.

Good luck..
Is it just me or didn't he just say he went over the entire bow and there were no loose screws when he did, maybe you didn't read that post.
It's pretty obvious to me that the screw came loose while HE was shooting and HE could have and should have checked everything over if HE heard something vibrate. If HE didn't hear anything vibrate at the end of the shooting session, HE should have checked his bow over before the next shooting session..Icheck all my equipment over before shooting and keep a watch on all parts while shooting. I also don't have problems that make me wait for new parts to come from the manufacture, while I let everyone know that my BOW has problems[&:]

Again, I'm glad to hear that BowTech stepped up to the plate and shouldered the responsibility of fixing something that probably shouldn't have been covered under warranty. This makes me feel good to know that IF I should ever have a legitimate warranty concern, BowTech will be there to help out and get me shooting again.;)

Greg / MO 07-12-2006 11:22 AM

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Things happen, Walks...

I'm sure he feels bad enough over his situation, and I'm sure he learned a lesson -- as a bunch of people on this thread apparently have. No need to grind salt into his wounds.


Well I think the point being made here guy's is that BowTech has stepped above their obligation in order to keep their customer happy ,this is exactly what make's this bow company the very best in my book's .
Exactly.



walks with a gimp 07-12-2006 12:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Things happen, Walks...

I'm sure he feels bad enough over his situation, and I'm sure he learned a lesson -- as a bunch of people on this thread apparently have. No need to grind salt into his wounds.


Well I think the point being made here guy's is that BowTech has stepped above their obligation in order to keep their customer happy ,this is exactly what make's this bow company the very best in my book's .
Exactly.


My point exactly and maybe pointing this out will save both parties involved some money in the future;)

nubo 07-12-2006 02:32 PM

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Dave C !

I agree someone sure wasn't thinking when they developed the blue loc-tite ,I was thinking the very same thing yesterday when I loaned my red bottle of blueLoc-tite to a friend . A real genious he was .

I agree Terry has been ridiculed enough over a mistake of this nature and I'm sure alot of us other's have made the very same mistake ,whether we want to admit it or not .I've already fessed up that I've made the same mistake ,but I was lucky and caught it before I shot my bow.I'm positive alot of us guy's on this forum don't check our equipment regular enough ,so we should consider ourselve's very lucky.

Remember guy's the blue loc-tite come's in a red bottle with a blue dot on it LOL.


nubo

gibblet 07-13-2006 04:43 AM

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i'd like to know just what loc-tite is and why it tastes like sugar.

DaveC 07-13-2006 05:52 AM

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Somewhere along the way I remember installing small screws with a "loc-tite" type swath or drop placed along one side of the threads to act as a locking agent once the bolt was in place. It was on one side of the threads and dried in place from the factory.

Seems like Bowtech could use something like that on it's module bolts.
Sure it doesn't work on multiple bolt on & off cycles, but mod bolts are taken on & off what?-3 or4 times at the most during the set up process?
Once to adjust draw length, once or twice to switch between smooth & fast mods. That should do it for a while.

They could still leave the "you better loc-tite them" rule in place, but the dab from the factory could act as a little insurance for those who neglect to do so.


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