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mauser06 07-10-2006 04:17 PM

to loop or not to loop?
 
to shoot from a string loop or no loop...that is the question?? im going to be ordering my first bow here this week or in a tad over 2weeks. depends on the pay check and my ebay sales lol. but they will put on a string loop free if i want it, if i dont they wont put one on. ive never shot either. i dont know what i should go with. any advice to steer me in the right direction hopefully?? i kinda think a loop would be more accurate by having the pressure point directly behind the arrow, but i tend to think into things a little much, thats just how my mind works. thats why i SHOULD have been an engineer, but my grades just dont allow that lol. i can think into things and figure stuff out, but cant pass freakin chemistry! lol

chiefks 07-10-2006 04:46 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
I've shot a release for years, but never used a loop. I'd like to hear others experiences who know about it.

Cougar Mag 07-10-2006 05:15 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
First year using one and so far I like it. I am still a little paranoid as I check the ends before each shot, but I now install my own and that makes me feel better. If you shoot a short axle to axle bow, a string loop is necessary in my opinion.

Chupacabras 07-10-2006 05:18 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
If you aren't sure , buy a bow with a cam that has an adjustable drawlength. Putting a loop on a bow is easy. I like using a loop and having my release directly behind the arrow nock.

Moosekill 07-10-2006 05:34 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
A loop is one more thing to go wrong.

Matt/TN 07-10-2006 05:50 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
well what is the ata on the bow, if its a shorter ata it would be better with a string loop.I personally like them, have it put on and then if you decide you dont like it take it off, that way you wont have to pay

Washington Hunter 07-10-2006 05:58 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
I'll put it this way;

There is no good reason not to use a loop.



Rob/PA Bowyer 07-10-2006 06:19 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
I'm shooting my first loop this year and I'm impartial. I do believe when you go below 36" ATA it might be a good idea, thus my first loop on my Allegiance.

Len in Maryland 07-10-2006 07:57 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
Here's a test to see what difference it makes in arrow torque. Have someone draw the bow to full draw with a loop and hold it there. Put your finger under the arrow just behind the rest and push up. You'll notice that you can lift the arrow easily.

Now let the bow down and put the release under the loop to similate drawing it without using a loop. Have the bow pulled to full draw again and perform the same test. You will now see how much downward pressure is put on the arrow.

The longer draw lengths with the shorter ATA bows will really put pressure/bend on the arrow.

jachunter 07-10-2006 08:22 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
Good answer/point Len

VA HEAD HUNTER 07-10-2006 08:26 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
i love the loop

cataway 07-10-2006 08:43 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 

ORIGINAL: Len in Maryland

Here's a test to see what difference it makes in arrow torque. Have someone draw the bow to full draw with a loop and hold it there. Put your finger under the arrow just behind the rest and push up. You'll notice that you can lift the arrow easily.

Now let the bow down and put the release under the loop to similate drawing it without using a loop. Have the bow pulled to full draw again and perform the same test. You will now see how much downward pressure is put on the arrow.

The longer draw lengths with the shorter ATA bows will really put pressure/bend on the arrow.
so your saying the down pressure keeps the arrow on the rest.goooooooooood

mauser06 07-10-2006 10:10 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
the bow will be a reflex highlander which is 36 inches ATA. i guess ill have it put on and see how i like it. it just kinda makes some sense to me to have the release directly behind the arrow. if i dont like it ill take it off or have it taken off and see if i like shooting off the string better. thanx for all the info guys

LEGACY45 07-11-2006 02:22 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
Just my two cents I have used loops for years and love them if they are tied and burned right they will last for a long time just don't get the loop very much bigger than the head of your release.;)

rybohunter 07-11-2006 03:12 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
I went to a loop last year. I really like it. It helped my accuracy and I feel comfortable with it.

Cataway, I do believe that the less forces on an arrow are better.

YooperMike 07-11-2006 03:52 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
I like the loop as well, if for no other reason than because it puts your release directly behind your nock. Also, the serving gets worn pretty good without a loop, not that it's a major deal, but just something that happens as a result. I never knew that about the arrow pressure though from no loop, it definitely makes sense though.

OUTLAWCREWREDMAN 07-11-2006 07:46 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
I use to shoot fingers before, i tried the Loop and never looked back.

tkycaller 07-11-2006 08:15 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
I shoot a loop on my switchback XT, Short ATA of course.

Len in Maryland 07-11-2006 09:46 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
While some may find downward pressure to be somewhat of an advantage, it canbe VERY detrimental to those who have the tolerances 'stacked' against them. It could make an otherwise correctly spined arrow and turn it into something that wouldn't begin to work correctly/effectively.

Shorter ATA bows combined with longer draw lengths and marginally correct spin is a recipe for disaster. The addition of something so small as a loop could be the formula for success.

Couple this with all the other benefits and it's hard not to utilize one. The sad part is that someone who has been set up with too long a draw length, which is more common than many could imagine, can be hurt moreso by the advanced/lost anchor.

Moosekill 07-12-2006 06:38 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
Loops can break, come untied, or slip, therefore to say there is no reason not to use a loop is incorrect. It is also more difficult for me to attach my release to in low light or stressfull conditions, therefore once again there is certainly are reasons not to use a loop. Is a loop better or worse, that is a question to ask yourself.

Arjuna 07-15-2006 10:00 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
Loop for sure. I used to shoot without one. Then, someone convinced me to try one. Accuracy improved immediately. I have never had one break, never had trouble loading an arrow, never had trouble clipping my release to the loop during a hunt. I vote: Loop.

demoIL 07-16-2006 09:51 AM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
another vote for the loop, have used it for years on an outback and had very good luck

ultimag 07-16-2006 10:10 AM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
moosekill i go hunting to release stress and relax. string loop all the way

150orbetter 07-26-2006 09:47 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
I love the loop it will extend the life of your string.

gzg38b 07-28-2006 09:21 PM

RE: to loop or not to loop?
 
Loop for a reason that nobody has mentioned yet. When you clip directly onto the string and draw, the "string pinch" causes the knock to come partially off the string. I was at full draw a couple of times and my arrow actually fell off the string. Thank god I didn't dry fire it! On a short ATA bow without a loop, if you draw and let down your arrow will very likely fall off the string. With a loop, I can draw and let down all day and the arrow stays tight on the string.That is THE reason I put on a loop.




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