loop.

No, keep it coming..... tthhwackem, I don't want to steal your post but I'm also changing to D-loop shooting.How big of a loop do you make?

wolf651, just enough for a clean release hook up and nothing more.

Start with a 4.5" piece or string and should end up just right ifn it doesn't stretch much.

I use loop only, no nocks.

Thanks wolf, I was refering to the smilies. thanks dave for the input

loop

tthh,

There are pro's and cons to both ways as you are probably aware of. I don't shoot a loop, but have done some chron testing with brass nocks (They aren't copper). Each brass nock set reduces your speed by about 4 fps, at least according to my chrono. So with your setup you could look for about 12 fps gain by removing them

Now add a loop. This may reduce speed by 3-4 fps. Thus you would nett about 8-9 fps gain. You may be able to shoot a peep without a tube as the loop helps with peep alignment. Going from a tube peep to something like a Fletcher Mag Hunter you might realize another 8 fps. There are variables, but that is 50-20 fps. Quite substantial.

Noise level is something that you probably won't be able to detect so I wouldn't consider it an issue.

You will probably have to get a new release anyway. If your jaws have any rough spots from the brass nock sets they will chew up a loop. If you do have to get a new one then there are some that are specifically made for loop use. The head is short and the trigger closer to the head. That can counter the extra length in stretching you out. True Ball Short-n-Sweet is an example. Just try to keep your loop as short as possible. If you release jaws don't hit your nock then it's long enough. You don't need any more.

Hope this helps.

My typing is terrible. Too many thumbs. I meant 15-20 fps.

Guess I better start using spell-check.

I just started using a string loop for two reasons. (1) shooting a 34" ATA bow and not using a loop gives more probability for nock pinch and is harder on the serving in my opinion. (2) just because I wanted to try it.

I am more than happy with the loop although I have one important need and concern. I HAVE to learn to tie my own loop and do it right! Driving to the shop every time I want to put on a new loop is not something I want to do every time, and its something I need to know.........sort of like if I am going to own it and shoot it, then I am going to know how to work on it.

BG/cougar THANKs!!!! it's nice to see that someone out there pays attention. I'm sure everyone that has responded meant well, but if I wanted one word oppinions, I would have asked for an oppinion, probably in a section other than TECHNICAL. Keep the info coming, but I learned something today

THANK YOU

Love the loop. I used to shoot on the string and it tore up my serving.