RE: Cannot get BHs & FPs to hit the same
 

hey i had problems with bh and i changed to a heicule from strait fleching and it solved my problem!!!!!!!!!!

RE: Cannot get BHs & FPs to hit the same
 

Could you tune the bow to shoot BH's and FP's closer together before you had the new string put on? Perhaps the cam is not in the right position now. You stated that the broadheads are 4" high. Is that at 20 yards, or how far? If I was planning on hunting any time real soon, I would probably just sight in for the broadheads and leave it at that. That said, your signature lists 2 broadheads that are known to be great flying heads which have the reputation of shooting right with field points, so 4" seems like a lot. Are you using a string loop, or shooting directly off the string? I ask because in '04, I was shooting a Darton Tundra off the string with a drop away rest. I was also getting broadheads flying a little high. Slick Tricks were closest to field pts impact, then Muzzys, finally Phantoms were hitting highest, about 2" at 20, 3" at 30, etc. with Slick Tricks maybe half that much off. I could not cure this with nock point or rest height, but did cure it by advancing the top cam by 1.5 twists of the control cable. Bingo, all 3 heads now shot the same, and also the same as field pts. out to 40 yards, and grouped well enough that I lost a $10 ACC arrow that I sliced with a broadhead by being too lazy to walk the 40 yards to shoot one at a time. In '05, I used a D loop, and did not have to advance the cam to get the same end result. I'm not sure about the cam on the Stingray, but the last 3 single cams I've tried to tune broadheads with were tough to get the way I wanted. All 3 seemed to pull the nock end of the arrow down into the rest, which would cause the high broadhead impact you are describing. I got high broadhead impact with drop aways, and low impact with a Whisker Biscuit with these bows. I got rid of the problem by going to a shoot through rest, which seemed to tune better than either the drop away, or the Biscuit with these single cam bows, none of which were a level nock travel single cam. If you are pleased with the flight and accuracy, you may want to leave well enough alone, but I do think 4" difference is a lot with those low profile broadheads.

RE: Cannot get BHs & FPs to hit the same
 

Thanks for all the reply's! I was a bit frustrated when I posted this thread, I am going to try some tinkering again next day or 2. See what happens.Thanks again for all the suggestions and advice.
NYH

RE: Cannot get BHs & FPs to hit the same
 

The answerer is a easy one.
If there is so much controversy whether to make both impact the same point by tuning,or simply adjusting your sights.
End it all and purchase mechanicals,they are a lot better made then those of yester year.
take the hypershocks for instance,one look and it got to make you think.
Plus you can forget about that noise coming from your arrows as if you just launched your wifes duster

RE: Cannot get BHs & FPs to hit the same
 

Two of my shooting buddies had the same problem and tried everything they knew of and nothing helped. I took one of my Slick Tricks and put it on his arrow and that fixed the problem. Dont ask me why but the Slick Trick was the only B/Head that would group with the field points.
The problem is somewhere in the tuning. My Hoyt Protec shoots same hole groups.
Im not in the business of selling broadheads Im just offering a suggestion. Hope you get it fixed.

GGBH

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EXACTLY!!!! Sometimes it ain't the bow - it's the broadhead. Even out of a perfectly tuned bow from a shooting machine, different broadheads will impact different spots on the target. Look at this test from a shooting machine with a well tuned bow. Notice how the point of impact varies just by switching broadheads. This is also true for mechanicals but to a lesser degree....
http://www.mucc.org/BroadheadTest.htm

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I have always had them impact the same. I bareshaft first then switch to broadheads. I add weight to the arrow and keep a high foc until the bow shoots around 250 fps. That seems to be the magical number to get all heads to fly good. The difference betwen a 400 grain arrow flying at 280 fps and an arrow that is 505 grains flying at 250 fps is only 3/4's of an inch difference shooting a 30 yard target for 25 yards. If stand hunting orbear hunting over bait, I know the yardages. If I am setting up on a bull, I range the trees rocks etc, before I start my calling sequence. Watch out using mechanicals, some states it may not be legal. It may take a little work, but I beleive that all bows can obtain the same point of impact with broadheads and field points. I have taken more animals than I can count with the bow, and only one has been over 20 yards. For me I see no neeed for a bunch of speed. If you can see where I am going with this you will see that with speed comes a greater chance of planing, and tune and form becomes more critical. I know some of you can get a tune and shoot with good form and have no problem getting good flight with fixed heads and high speed. But over the grand scale, most archers would be better off shooting slower setups that are more forgiving instead of trying to be the guy who shoots lightning fast withpinpoint accuracy.Usually, from what I have seen in the average archer, with increase in speed, comes an increase of problems.

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http://www.broadheadtests.com/TUNING.html
Read through my link as well. It could/can be a lot of things.

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Not a well tuned bow , They are WAY underspined . Bad example . Groups like this should not provide "advise"

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I would have to agree with iJimmy that the arrow used for those tests should have been a 340, not a 400. Still, you could see that the low profile heads (Nitron, Turbo, and Sonic) did better with an underspined arrow situation. That's why when NY said his broadheads were 4" off, it seems like too much for those particular heads. IME, the Slick Tricks will shoot very close to field points even when the bow is not tuned really right. NY Harvester, I would say try 5-shot's link. He has really put his time into broadhead testing, spent loads of money on heads to test, and shares that info with us.