Pics and video of Elite E-Force
 

Was just over on AT and they have a thread on the E-Force with pics and video of it shooting.70# at 30 inches with EZ mod and 400 grain arrow at 309 fps.:DCheck it out!!!

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YA, YA, YA,...and it will end up with cracks in it too! JK! HA!:D

I heard somewhere he was using his womans name or initials for the model number of his products. I guess that explains where he got thetitles K8 andEZ. :D:D:D

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Forgot to add it's in the General Archery Discussion.

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I saw that stuff yesterday and watching the video plus reading the comments has helped me solidify my decision on buying an 06 bowtech- (if I buy).
I'm sure Elite will do well, but speed isn't free and if their smooth mods feel like the current BT speed mods then we know where the speed came from.
Can't let up any without jerking me forward? been there done that- I'l pass. Maybe this could be tuned out of the cam with some adjustments. My biggest gripe is how they are leading some people on by telling them their bows will ship "next week" when this weeks demo bows don't even have stencils or grips on them yet.

I welcome Elite and hope they do well, their existance should at least raise the bar for rest of the big names out there- not only to keep up, but also tryand stay ahead.

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Even though the thread-starter was giving it a glowing review, these sure aren't any character traits that I find favorable myself...


Think I'll still take my smooth draw with nice valley and rock-solid wall generating tremendous speeds. ;)

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Trust me Kevin doesn't give a crap about nice draw force curves......the guy can draw 100# bows with ease and considers 70# range "Sissy weight". I think his "Flight" bow is about 140# draw weight?
Any extra speed those bows will generate over the similar (similar is kind of a funny comparison;)) Bowtech models will be built into the force curve and how much energy the cams store.
If the EZ draw mods feel like Bowtechs "Fast" mods then you already figured that out.
Any extra speed from those bows is smoke and mirrors and more agressive draw force curves.

Also, no40 grs of string silencers, or Eliminator buttons on that string.

I'll rig up my 30"/70# Allegiance and fling a few through the chrono for you guys.....smooth and fast mods. I just happen to have some 400gr test arrows.
Let me see what I can come up with.......I'll take a picture of the chronograph as soon as I put out the fire.;)

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I read the whole thread and seen the video and pics and my only question was why there were so many BowTech parts on that bow? It had a BowTech quick attach quiver mount on the sight, BowTechdraw stop post,BowTech cable slide and,, sure did look like last year's Allegiance limbs with the tamper-proof screws in the limb fork ends[&:]. I'd sure like to put a caliper on those limbs and compare data with my '05 limbs;)



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let's see, how many bowtech staff shooters can we count posting in this thread, hmmmmm, betcha i know.

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That thread was the icing on the cake for me....I went and ordered an 06 Allegiance....:D

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Didn't check it out yet but considering all the pot-stirrin' it is causing I am tempted to head over to the heathen-site....;)

:D

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Seems weird to me that the top of the riser rolled over back towards the shooter after the shot. I would have liked to seen him try to let down slowly from full draw.
Supposedly they have a retro kit for the 05 Allegiance. Would be interesting to see the differences in performance/ shootability of the upgrade.

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The top of the riser "rolled back" because either the grip is very low wristed or the shooter was heeling the grip with his hand position. Also the bow that was being shot didn't have a grip on it which could explain the roll back. Short and light stab too;)



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I looked at their web site yesterday and also noticed that the price on those Barnsdale limbs went up from $75.00 to $125.00. The Barnsdale limbs also don't show the tamper proof screws in the ends of the limb forks like the '05 BowTech Binary limbs.



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"A harsh draw curve with no valley and a string that wants to rip out of your hands" doesn't exactly warm my heart. I actually emailed them for a price and some more information but they never responded. So I bought an 06 Bowtech instead. Emailed PAt Dinan late last night with a technical question and had an answer from him by 9.00 am this morning. And people say Bowtech don't have good customer service???? I will stick with Bowtech thanks.

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Plus the fact that Pat is currently 750 miles from home and busy setting up shop at the PBR event in Omaha this weekend:D

YEEEEEE HHAAAWWWW 8 seconds of fun!!!


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I guess Bowtech supplies him a laptop ;)

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I dont consider myself biased , I hate bows with no valley ,and from watching the video , that bow is very loud .

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Exactly why,, IMO the BowTech Binary cams with the module choice has been so popular this year. I have shot the fast modules on my Tribute and they are fine but those smooth mods,,,,,:) they sure make these old shoulders:D

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Same here.....but that video sealed the deal with me. I wish everyone good luck with their Elite bows whenever they get them. I went and bought a 2006 Allegiance instead and am still :D

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You got that $hit right Bro!

That record he set was a w/ a 175 pounder, IIRC

that sunnuvabeatch yanked back those 70 and 80 pound BK cams as quick and easy as I do my son's old $10 Kmart special 2 pounder.:eek:

So whats the scoop here...he's got a new company? He left BT? (I'm waayyyy outta the loop)

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Dang JeffB, you don't want to go there. Big soap opera. ;)

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Greg/MO, I am not sure how glowing my review was.I was merely pointing something that i thought was interesting.I did not say that i was wanting to buy an Elite at any time,and as a matter of fact i have two bowtechs(probably not as many as you ,but the again i am not aPro Staff shooter)and will continue to shoot Bowtechs until i can't shoot anymore.

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Newman,
Greg was referring to the guy who started the original thread on Archerytalk.

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Thanks, Matt... Yep Newman -- he's exactly right; I was referring to LeEarl on AT, the guy who started that thread.


JeffB, you seriously been outta the loop that long? :)I'm sure someone'll PM you with the good stuff, but Kevin's designing and building for a company called Elite Archery now.... Oh wait, that's not right -- his new wife's doing all the design and engineering work. You know, all that modeling experience can really teach you a thing about draw force curves and modular systems... ;)

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Nope...don't really know WTF is going on Greg! (as usual) [8D]But thanks for the info :)

His WIFE?!!!!!

That crazy (though I found her charming in an oddsort of way)Michelle?? (I think that was her name) the one who was at the show in 2004 Matt? Pat? Vic? Frank?

Yeeesh.....I should just stay away...weirdgoings on whenever I pop back in[:'(]

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That's the ex. The new wife is Kate(Martin archery)

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No Jeff ,her name is Kate ,and I'm taking that she's as good of an engineer as she is a looker LOL.

From what I just read over there ,there's quite a stir because they have put back their delivery date and called back all their part's ,because of the rubberized coating wasn't cured correctly and is flaking off .

OHHHH the ache's and pain's of starting up a new archery company .

nubo

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Jeff,

There is a PM headed your way if somebody else has not already done so....

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Jeff, you didnt miss a thing but alot of drama & bs!
I reserve comment on any of the bows til this time next year. Hopefully someone will have had one long enough to give an evalution (unbiased of course) :D