arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
#11
RE: arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
i think you're right paul. we'll have to let utm look over this and decide. bowfanatic, there are ways around that, whether you agree with those ways or not, that doesn't matter.lets let utm make hisown decisions. what's a warranty worth on a bow that's too long, that no one wants to buy, and thatyou can't shoot correctly?no warranty if he sells it. doesn't need one if it sits in his closet, what'syour point exactly?
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
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RE: arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
ORIGINAL: gibblet
bowfanatic, there are ways around that, whether you agree with those ways or not, that doesn't matter.lets let utm make hisown decisions. what's a warranty worth on a bow that's too long, that no one wants to buy, and thatyou can't shoot correctly?no warranty if he sells it. doesn't need one if it sits in his closet, what'syour point exactly?
bowfanatic, there are ways around that, whether you agree with those ways or not, that doesn't matter.lets let utm make hisown decisions. what's a warranty worth on a bow that's too long, that no one wants to buy, and thatyou can't shoot correctly?no warranty if he sells it. doesn't need one if it sits in his closet, what'syour point exactly?
#13
RE: arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
it may have been a bit, other circumstances, not you, sorry. he's in a pickle though if you've been reading his posts (utmstudent), and while it may have been a bit, well, like you said, the circumstances i describe are correct.
well, no worries now, the shop owner sold him one 1/2" short.
well, no worries now, the shop owner sold him one 1/2" short.
#15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blissfield MI USA
Posts: 5,293
RE: arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
The bow he got doesn't adjust down low enough for his draw length. He basically got ripped when someone sold him the bow. I don't know his particulars without looking them up if they were posted but some bows only go down to 27 inches (which screws us short people) and his draw length may be 26 inches. I think I will look and see.
Or he may not be able to afford a new cam if that is what it takes. If it is a module that could be changed that would be pretty cheap, but I think it's more extreme than that.
Paul
Or he may not be able to afford a new cam if that is what it takes. If it is a module that could be changed that would be pretty cheap, but I think it's more extreme than that.
Paul
#16
RE: arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
The problem is when you start twisting the cables,you then start increasing the draw length.You also will be increasing the poundage,so doing what Arthur stated might be best.Split the difference but there is really no good answer.IMO,all you are going to accomplish by trying to keep the cam rotation close to right is increasing the poundage because of limb load and a draw length that is a lLITTLE shorter.
You may be best just short stringing it and living with the cam out of rotation for now,atleast untill he can get the right cam or bow for him.
You may be best just short stringing it and living with the cam out of rotation for now,atleast untill he can get the right cam or bow for him.
#17
RE: arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
Upon further brain storming.You may be able to short string and then shorten the cables without increasing draw length because the draw length doesn't increase untill you over rotate the cam back from twisting the cables.[]But this should increase poundage,considerably I would imagine with that much shortening of the cables.
As to how much,I would do like Paul stated and twist strings and cables untill you are close to what you are looking for.
I believe in the end you will have to compromise between poundage,draw length and cam rollover.
Naturally it would be best if a different cam or bow were an option.
As to how much,I would do like Paul stated and twist strings and cables untill you are close to what you are looking for.
I believe in the end you will have to compromise between poundage,draw length and cam rollover.
Naturally it would be best if a different cam or bow were an option.
#18
RE: arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
tfox, he went the short string route from a shop. but that's great info, exactly what i was looking for. i'm going to file that because i'll need to know it one day for sure. thanks.
#19
RE: arthur, bg, paul, and other smart folks, a ?
Gibblet,if it would be possible.I have a Versa cam from a Hoyt Protec that was a 39 1/2" a-a bow with a draw length adjustment for that bow from 26"-28" that might be able to be put on the bow and get the draw length desired. If you hink it might work I would be willing to send it to you to try.The cam also has adjustabledraw stop holes,so it has quite alot of adjustment.
I got to thinking about the poundage issue and because you are trying to get the draw shorter,the poundage would go up with shorter cables but should come back down because of the shorter draw,basically offsetting each other.BUT you would still put alot of preload on the limbs but shouldn't be that big of an issue with a 26-27" bow.
Let me know if you want the cam and idler, If not,let us know how itturns out anyway.
I got to thinking about the poundage issue and because you are trying to get the draw shorter,the poundage would go up with shorter cables but should come back down because of the shorter draw,basically offsetting each other.BUT you would still put alot of preload on the limbs but shouldn't be that big of an issue with a 26-27" bow.
Let me know if you want the cam and idler, If not,let us know how itturns out anyway.